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Ever have this happen?

I mixed up some lizard soup (for my non eating mole kings), put some day olds in, in a deli cup and put them in the freezer. 3 weeks later I take the cup out. I let it thaw in the fridge for 2 days. ALL the day olds are dead! BUT, I only used 12 of the 15.

I JUST FOUND 1 OF THE 3 LEFT ALIVE, MOVING AND SQUEEKING!!!! WTF??????
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B

LOL sounds to me your freezer is broken
Foot Hill Reptiles

Ever have this happen?

I JUST FOUND 1 OF THE 3 LEFT ALIVE, MOVING AND SQUEEKING!!!! WTF??????

I don't get what your saying. Can you clarify?
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" there is really no such thing as an expert keeper/breeder, but there are those who let the snakes be expert at being snakes."-Frank Retes

I pulled 15 day old pinks. I froze them in liquid (lizard soup) in a deli cup. I pulled that deli cup out of the freezer 2 days ago and it was a nice big round cube of ice. It thawed. I only used 12 0f the 15. I found 1 of the remaining 3 left, ALIVE!

Some how it survived 3 weeks in the freezer and 2 days thawing in the fridge, in liquid, and is now ALIVE.
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B

That is such a trip!!

If that pinky survived all of that, I think he deserves to not be fed off! It would be interesting to keep him or give him away as a pet, seeing how long he survives, and to just study how he recoups, if he is able. Since I assume you breed mice, would he do well being put back with a mother mouse? I honestly have barely any knowledge about mice, from a breeding and nurturing standpoint.
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Genesis 1:1

Already done. I clipped it's tail and put it in with, hopefuly, some foster parents.
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B

just stick it back in the freezer. It will die eventually.
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snakes and dogs are proof that God loves us.

"put some day olds in"

Day old what? Pinkies or lizards? I can't see either surviving in a freezer that long unless it's broke like it was suggested already. A pinkie would dehydrate or starve to death surely in that amount of time, under any temp.

Not at all.

Let's see a day old pinkie mouse....frozen in a liquid soup for a few weeks....then thawed and still in the liquid soup for two more days....and still alive.

Nope.

Kerby...
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Lonesome Valley Reptiles
www.lonesomevalleyreptiles.com
Specializing In California Kingsnakes

I just found one moving. Check your TV dinners for droppings.

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snakes and dogs are proof that God loves us.

Dude!,....I see signs of life in the bag too!...LOL.....all I can say, is that pinky being talked about would be worth HUGE COINS to science if that indeed was the case!!!!

Maybe we'll see this story at the supermarket on the cover of the "INQUIRER"!

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

LOL, obviously the guy is lying or playing around with us. It's absolutely impossible and we all know it.

**Maybe we'll see this story at the supermarket on the cover of the "INQUIRER"! **

Must be Gospel then...I mean if it's on the cover of the INQUIRER, it has to be true...right?

Kerby...
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Lonesome Valley Reptiles
www.lonesomevalleyreptiles.com
Specializing In California Kingsnakes

while he was rolling another cigarette he forgot about the live pink he put in the scenting mix???Huh just a thought.....C

I like the "cigarette" theory!..LOL

Many years ago(1978), I just got done enjoying a "cigarette", and was admiring the brand new nickel and gold plating that was done on my 357 magnum while sliding bullets in and out of the cylinder. I had to cock the gun to fully take in the beauty of the gold plating job done on the hammer,..........you guys can picture what likely happened next!..........KABOOOM!!!!

Just proves what "not-so-smart" things can happen after enjoying a simple "cigarette"!..LOL

I think something very similar could also happen with a mouse, minus the extreme danger to human life!..LOL

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

lol... so you're the reason why theres a do not use while intoxicated warning on my new rifle... that sure does explain a lot...
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~Maggie~

"Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious."
1.1 Cal Kings
1.0 Mali Uromastyx
1.0 Brooksi
0.1 Red Belly Piranha
1.0 Australian Shepherd

It's the first cyrogentic mouse?

Scott D

The snakes are my teachers, I am but their student!

LOL!,......Well, I guess you could say that!..LOL

I will say though, that I learned a VERY valuable lesson from that little incident, and I made ASOLUTELY SURE that would NEVER happen again!.....that cannot be stressed enough!

guns, bullets, and "cigarettes" DO NOT mix well!..LOL

nobody could imagine the HORRIFIC explosion that gun made in that tiny bedroom!,.....my ears were ringing for what seemed an eternity!,...and quite frankly, I was extremely lucky to still have a head to hear the ringing with!!! that was a real experience!........needless to say, the affect of said
"cigarette" was gone immediately(if you know what I mean)

best regards, ~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Sounds like some Heavy Metal concerts I've been to!

Scott D

n/p
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

You got it Kerby!,.......at least that's what most of our
"so-called" educated/intelligent country thinks!..LOL

The general public really does amaze me at times!

later!, ~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Well, where else are we to get our news now that Weekly World News is no more????

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“There is a grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; and that whilst this planet has gone on cycling according to the fixed laws of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved.” -C. Darwin, 1859

Natural Selection Reptiles

I wish I was lying, if I was making it up I sure wouldn't use my own screen name. Dang I wish it were drugs LOL. But, I retraced my steps and there is no way I could of put a live pinky in the dish with the thawed.

In doing some research this morning I found some reptiles can survive deep freeze for long periods of time. Mostly frogs, turtles, fish and some lizards and a few snakes and mammals.

My theory:

I used Anolis carolinis. I blended them up, after freezing them, for scenting and put live day old pinks in the soup. Some lizards have a natural antifreeze and possibly this species does to. Possibly the one pink that survived (dead now, the mice didn't foster it, must of smelled too much like lizard) inhaled the liquid enabling it's blood to not crystallize. When I froze them off in the liquid they most likely drowned before freezing. The liquid probably took at least 2 to 3 hours, maybe longer, (I didn't do it as an experiment and didn't take data) slowly freezing the liquid and the pinks.

I didn't just place the cup out to defrost. I put it in the fridge to defrost. I took them out of the liquid and let them get room temp. I put 12 of them in containers to be eaten, 3 were left and all were lifeless. 1-2 hours later I went to get another to offer to a snake that ate 1 and 1 of the 3 left was alive and moving.

I wish I was making this up. I'm not claiming it was some kind of miracle and come worship the mouse that survived freezing. I kind of thought this might have happened to other people but I guess not. Poke fun at me all you like, I'm sure if I was reading this from someone else, I'd do the same.
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B

You know it could just be old age setting in,unless someone has been herping in the cow pastures and harvesting some shrooms?
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i'm not over weight i'm under tall

have you been licking Colorado toads, lol!?
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Todd Hughes

First, Keep that pinkie, dead or not. Then confirm what happened. That is, do it again. Repeat those steps many times and see if it happens again. If it does, then seek help from people that would be truly interested in such a thing. That is, not here. I am sure some biology dept. somewhere would take an interest. After that, you can bring it here and back up what your saying.

Good luck and please tell us if it happens. Oh by the way, I have had several similar incidents with pinkies. But not nearly as extreme as yours. Mine was having a pinkie/s survive the freezer for one or two days(still amazing) So I simply changed the way I killed them and made sure they were far deader, hahahahahahaha. Now I do not have that problem. Pinkies are really hard to kill without destorying them.

Oh by the way, my wife just rendered her comment, she said, THATS DISGUSTING! hahahahahahaha good luck

you know if that really did happen and its not it is not old age setting in i can suggest one thing to do. You will need an old priest and a young priest oh and someone pure then you all will need to hold hands and chant the power of christ compells you until the demon is lifted
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i'm not over weight i'm under tall

LMAO...
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B

I had a pinky survive overnight in the freezer once. It freaked me out and I felt bad so after that I always kill them before I freeze them.

There are no lizards that contain "anti-freeze." Some frogs do, but they need to be alive in order for it to work. As others have said, a pinkie cannot survive for three weeks without food.

Tim

Knocking them on the head and putting them in the freezer. Well, went to the freezer a few days later found one wasnt dead, woke up, and was eating pretty good on frozen corn....I suppose if it were just barely 32 degrees, that the pink was buried under warmer siblings, it might be possible that it shut down to hibernate a bit. We have to remember that somehow small mammals survived the iceages and whatever killed off the dinsaurs....as they said in Jurassic Park,"life finds a way"....

Sure you didn't give that one an ample supply of beer?

Snakes are my teachers, I'm just a student!

Scott D