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I know it's a Colombian Boa, but what is it?

Hint, I don't know... yet.
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Isn't that the female you got to go with your Tribal Boa?

I got a hold of about a dozen what I call square backs, just like that...darker tails than normal and perfectly square saddles as imported babies from colombia a few years ago....that could be one of them???/ The whole litter was like that...

Do you have any pictures of them?

Did you keep any of them?

When were they born?

Where did they go after they were born? Where are they now?

Did every single animal in the litter look "just like that"? If not how many were in the litter?

If they looked just like that, what precisely is the single thing that separates this from other Boas. It isn't the pale pattern elements. It isn't the squarish saddles. It isn't the color. What precisely is it?
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I didn't read carefully enough. Some of my questions you already answered but not all. Please let me know OK?

She is three years old. Was supposed to be captive born. There were two. The other was sold as I pet I think...
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They were sold in 2's and 3's mostly on kingsnake...a few single ones as well....yours reminded me of them not only becuase of the saddles but also the verall reduced patterns and the tail looks like bolivians, real short looking, short tail saddle counts...Some in the litter had connecting saddles but only by a fainter thin stripe....also the tail color looks very familiar, barely red at all, real real dark. There was about 20-25 of them if I remember correctly...neat snakes....

as for pics, I lost them all when the photo site holding them went under

The difference in this animal from all other Colombian Boas is specifically the little light stripe at the border of the saddles. The saddles on all other Boas extend at least all the way to the edge of the dorsal portion of the back where "Saddle Points" most of the time continue, but not this little girl.

1. There are plenty of other Boas with squared off saddles.
2. There are plenty of other Boas that almost look Anerythristic.
3. There are plenty of other Boas with only 20 total crossbars from head to tail tip although this is very unusual for a "normally" patterned Colombian that is not missing saddles.
4. The tail pattern is 7 or 8 tail markings long making it typical for most Colombians.
5. The single spot pale pattern element within many of the saddles is odd.
6. The rear 2/3 of the animal has nearly no "Saddle Points" whatsoever and those that are there, are still separated from the saddles by that pale light line.

Did the imports that you sold have this distinguishing and differentiating pale line like this one has? If so, perhaps someone that purchased some of these will post pictures of them. I haven't seen any before. By the way, this one is 2 1/2 years old. She will be three next year.
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floating saddles = Blazing Saddles Up In Smoke?
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1. There are plenty of other Boas with squared off saddles. -yes but not many with spots in them....

2. There are plenty of other Boas that almost look Anerythristic. -yes, but its a deep deep dark red/brown color isnt it? you can barely see it

3. There are plenty of other Boas with only 20 total crossbars from head to tail tip although this is very unusual for a "normally" patterned Colombian that is not missing saddles. -true, makes them unqique in appearance

4. The tail pattern is 7 or 8 tail markings long making it typical for most Colombians-YES but in these snakes it looks different than most colombians for some reason...

5. The single spot pale pattern element within many of the saddles is odd. -ours had this spot as well.

6. The rear 2/3 of the animal has nearly no "Saddle Points" whatsoever and those that are there, are still separated from the saddles by that pale light line. -this is what I mean by the tail end looks different....refer to number 4, lol

Did the imports that you sold have this distinguishing and differentiating pale line like this one has? If so, perhaps someone that purchased some of these will post pictures of them. I haven't seen any before. By the way, this one is 2 1/2 years old. She will be three next year.-

-yes they did, as babies the line looks almost white and faded as they grew, one customer sent me photos of it as it was bigger but havent heard from him since....you can tell the line had gotten darker and not so prominent....but you can still tell it is there just not white anymore, if i remember correctly they were brought in about 3 years ago in 2004? im not sure anymore id be lying if i had an exact date, even the babies that were "normal" had the white line....real neat snakes
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Thanks for the additional info. NP
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Here is one I produced this year. He has the circles in all the saddles. Most of the litter mate had some circles but not in all the saddles


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goofy boa of some kind! Postage stamp back boa? codom maybe? genetic? How close are you? Dan

I'm not very close yet, but she is breedable and I am trying with a Hypo male. Postage Stamp? Hhmmm...
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She reminds me of some of Mike Greathouse's black tail boas. I haven't seen any in a while, but seem to remember them having that same saddle look. A little unique for sure, good luck.

i think a perfect match for your "tribal boa" speaking of wich any recent pics of him last i remember he was in shed and looked all kind of goofy pics please lol

razor blades. at least the basic shape of one.
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"Razorbacks"?
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"Razorbacks"! I like that one. Can I use that?

I don't think that all the babies born, assuming that it is genetic, will have saddles that look like Razor Blades, but no matter. The saddle pattern is reduced in a way that does not normally occur. They are narrower than "normal". Note the little light stripe along the edges where the saddles would normally extend to the edge of the top of the animal. On this critter they are held back by that light line. Pretty different.

If it is genetic, and if there is a "Super" version, no telling what the super will look like. It reminds me of Motleys only in that the first Motley and many of the first generation Motleys looked to be almost Anerythristic.
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Sure! Do I get a "reward"? Heh heh, just kidding. Whatever the cause of the pattern, it is really different, and should look awesome when combined with hypo coloration.

Good luck in finding more of the same original litter!
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I think I played a part in the name too so I think as a just reward we should both get free babies!
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