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Ptyas update

Sighthunter Dec 11, 2007 10:18 PM

Eight of my twenty Ptyas dhumnades are now feeding on pink mice. I no longer have frogs as the ponds are now frozen as we are also having an ice storm. They are hard to switch to pinks but my hunch is that like most things they have a dual life stage. A dual life stage is necessary if you think about it. Size alone dictates what can be eaten but my hunch is that the young hang out along permanent water until they get some size to them.

Like my other racers, coachwhips, cribos and the like once feeding on pinks anything goes. I have found that they will not digest food properly anything under 83F and temps under 74 will kill them.

After working with these challenging snakes I was re-thinking Boiga. I have always had poor luck with them but I kept them like all my other colubrids 84F ish.

Ptyas like Boiga are from the hot tropics and like it hot. My hunch is most if not all keepers of Boiga have no luck because they are kept too cool. If they were kept at 88F and young were given the food they crave frogs I think they would start like Ptyas. My Ptyas are kept 86F to 90F.

My method was this; I scented cricket frogs with pink mouse parts for them and all 20 ate every time frogs were offered. None accepted scented pinks for the first month as they keyed on movement. The next step was to feed as much as possible (every two days at 88F) then after a month two ate scented pink mice (scented with cricket frog) the rest were fasted for 10 day stretches and offered only scented mice after about a month fast six more accepted scented mice, the rest will most likely perish. My goal is to have 2.2 breeders and I am off to a good start.
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Replies (7)

Sighthunter Dec 11, 2007 10:19 PM

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Royreptile Dec 11, 2007 10:39 PM

Good post, Bill.
I think that you are on the right track about Boiga. I have always considered Boiga a favorite but I can't locate another B. d. dendrophila to pair with my male as this subspecies is only sporadically imported from Javan locales. They are nonetheless great snakes, with the only drawback being their nocturnal nature in my opinion.
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Roy Blodgett
Green Man Herpetoculture
royreptile@yahoo.com

1.1 Drymarchon corais
1.1 Pseustes sulphureus
1.1 Masticophis taeniatus taeniatus
0.0.1 Coluber mormon
1.1 Lampropeltis getula californiae (desert phase)
1.0 Boiga dendrophila dendrophila
2.3 Pogona vitticeps (snow and red/gold)
1.0 Iguana iguana

“All men lie enveloped in whale-lines. All are born with halters round their necks; but it is only when caught in the swift, sudden turn of death, that mortals realize the silent, subtle, ever-present perils of life.”- Herman Melville

Sighthunter Dec 12, 2007 12:49 PM

I still have a pair with your name on them!

“All men lie enveloped in computer-cords. All are born with USB connections round their necks; but it is only when caught in the swift, sudden turn of media, that mortals realize the silent, subtle, ever-present perils of internet.”- man bill
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"Life without risk is to merely exist."

Royreptile Dec 12, 2007 06:25 PM

Sounds great!
And nice manipulation of Melville's quote! Haha.
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Roy Blodgett
Green Man Herpetoculture
royreptile@yahoo.com

1.1 Drymarchon corais
1.1 Pseustes sulphureus
1.1 Masticophis taeniatus taeniatus
0.0.1 Coluber mormon
1.1 Lampropeltis getula californiae (desert phase)
1.0 Boiga dendrophila dendrophila
2.3 Pogona vitticeps (snow and red/gold)
1.0 Iguana iguana

“All men lie enveloped in whale-lines. All are born with halters round their necks; but it is only when caught in the swift, sudden turn of death, that mortals realize the silent, subtle, ever-present perils of life.”- Herman Melville

chuck911jeep Dec 12, 2007 08:30 AM

Hi Bill!
Witch specie is it? Not the carinatus lucky Bill? The korros left here are doing fine, the only difference is they all accept mice from second day after arrival.
Take care!

Sighthunter Dec 12, 2007 12:40 PM

Wait till you make some youngsters the size of nightcrawlers!
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"Life without risk is to merely exist."

chuck911jeep Dec 12, 2007 01:02 PM

I never had to deal with nightcraler size import. The smallest korros where around 20 inch.
Take care!

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