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hope i get it this week, found a good digital cam,i'm thinking of calling them maliharans or maharans sounds funny though,anybody have any suggestions

What about "malharans"?
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1 Mali Uromastyx named Ra

I got a bunch, Malaran, Sali, Sahmali, malgerian, Nigali, Red mali's, and Black saharan's. These are just a few funny ones lol. What is your scientific name going to be for this hybrid? geyriensis I think sounds the best way to combine geyri and maliensis

I like the "Red Mali" and "Black Saharan" for common names. For a scientific name, how about "Uromastyx hybrida"? It would be the first hybrid of its kind and a combination that could possibly occur in the wild (since their territories overlap). I checked the name with an online English-to-Latin dictionary.

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1 Mali Uromastyx named Ra

I like Black Saharan for common name, but for the scientific name i like U. geyriensis. Could u actually publish the name if people start to breed malis and geyri. i have 3 female saharans and i am houseing them with a male malis and a male geyri. I wonder who the females will mate with.

Mike
1.1.3 malis
1.3 geyri

take a female saharan and a male mali and put them together by themselves in another enclosure, eventually they will ,but if they are together with there own kind it will be harder

sorry i mean male saharan and female mali, or either way, try it the other way, mine was a male saharan and a female mali,try it the other way around to see if it works for u , whatever works, its just like dogs , when they mixed a bull terrier with a bulldog to get a pitbull as long as they are all the same species its basically the same thing,they just come out gorgeous

I am going to breed my female malis with my male saharan, and my male malis with 1 or two of the geyri females, so i will have 2 totally different bloodlines of malis X Geyri so i can breed the clutches with eachother. Since i have a smaller geyri female i am not going to try to breed her with any males, but since she is the right age and is big enough i might let her breed with my saharan male so i will have pure bred saharans. If this works this is going to be really cool. Once i breed their offspring i wonder what would happen to the colors. Also, with your malis X geyri hatchlings do you have some hatchlings that look like pure malis or pure geyri or are all of the hatchlings a mix of both malis and geyri. I know you are going to keep 5 hatchlings so i was wondering if i hatch some hybrids maybe we can swap hatchlings so if you want to breed them you would have different blood lines. If everything goes to plain i will have 2 completely different blood lines. So if we swap you can have up to 3 different blood lines of hybrids, and so will I.

Mike
1.1.3 malis
1.3 geyri

>>Could u actually publish the name if people start to breed malis and geyri.

Technically, no, you couldn't publish it. And, btw, hybrid animals do not recieve subspecies status... they would be called intergrades if they occur naturally in the wild. Subspecies are a morphologically/locally distinct form of a species which breeds true, and have a third name (for example, people used to think that geyri were a subspecies of acanthinura, and their scientific name at that time was Uromastyx acanthinura geyri). The scientific name of the hybrid offspring would be Uromastyx maliensis X geyri. Also, hybrid offspring generally do not breed true (even if they're not sterile, which often happens)... the 1st generation, where one parent is a mail and the other a geyri, would probably look like a mix of the two species. However, the offspring of the hybrids will probably revert - that is, some of the hybrid's offspring will look mostly mali, and some will look mostly saharan.

For common name however, you can go nuts.... just keep in mind that both "black saharan" and "red mali" are misleading, giving the impression of a color morph rather than a mixed animal.

Also, while I'm not completely against hybrids, personally I think this is kind of a waste when geyri aren't yet being captive bred in numbers. I think it would be rather more worthwhile to work on creating a good base of clean, CB geyri with good genetic diversity..... before crossing them out and possibly making it difficult for other people to tell what kind of animal they have. Just my opinion.

Dawn

I just changed my mind, i think i am going to breed my 3 geyri females with my geyri male because captive bred saharans are so sparse in captivity.

Mike
1.1.3 malis
1.3 geyri