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I've noticed my Timor's are getting alot more active after misting. Since cycling, my male has shown some interest in the female without misting, but copulation hasn't been observed. Misting has brought about copulation in my Carpets, and I was wondering if anyone has noticed a substantial role of humidity in the breeding of Timor Pythons. Thanks.

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"He who would stifle debate rather than engage in it, does so at the expense of his integrity and credibility"

Mike Curtin

Mike, most of the copulations I have witnessed with mine have been between the hours of 3am and 5am and most of the time in a hide box. Misting has made mine more active but has not played a large role in copulation. Good luck this year. The real trick is getting the female to ovulate. If you figure that part out let me know. Thanks Tom

Thanks, Tom. I've got a tight tube type hide for them which they've been utilizing. I purchased them as a "proven" pair, so I'm hopeful. What I've been told is that patience is key (which shouldn't be a problem for you...I've seen some of the snakes you work with). No disturbances, no removal then re-introduction. My other pythons are just the opposite....absence makes the libido soar. I'll try it out this year the way I'm going and adjust next year if necessary.

BTW..How much do you cool them when cycling? I know in some species this plays a role...not so much in others. Thanks again.
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"He who would stifle debate rather than engage in it, does so at the expense of his integrity and credibility"

Mike Curtin

Mine get a bit dry. It's a new building for my animals this year, but I still put them together. Male is 6.5', female is a solid 8.5. 3 years old for the pair. I've noticed the male is not feeding, and they spent a lot of time in the hidebox, and noticed dried semen on both, so maybe, as Tom (Hi Tom!, lol) says, the action is early in the morning. Same thing is happening with my Olives, although they still eat.
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1.1 Blackheaded pythons
1.1 Woma
2.1 Aussie Olives
1.1 Timors
1.1 Bloods
1.1 Balls
2.2 IJ Carpets
1.0 Coastal Carpets
1.2 Macklotts
1.1 Papuan Olives
2.0 Jungle Carpet
0.1 Carpondro
0.1 Jungle/Diamond cross
.1 Brazilian Rainbow boas
0.1 child, CB
0.1 wife, WC

What's the approx. humidity and is this year-round or just during the breeding season? Do you mist at all? Thanks for the input.
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"He who would stifle debate rather than engage in it, does so at the expense of his integrity and credibility"

Mike Curtin

If you mean me, I haven't misted at all. Just separation. However, as Tom said, getting the female to ovulate is the trick/key.
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1.1 Blackheaded pythons
1.1 Woma
2.1 Aussie Olives
1.1 Timors
1.1 Bloods
1.1 Balls
2.2 IJ Carpets
1.0 Coastal Carpets
1.2 Macklotts
1.1 Papuan Olives
2.0 Jungle Carpet
0.1 Carpondro
0.1 Jungle/Diamond cross
.1 Brazilian Rainbow boas
0.1 child, CB
0.1 wife, WC

Curious as to what degree of temperature and photoperiod reduction you are utilizing. Thanks,

Kelly

I cycled these like I've done my other pythons. Gradual NTL reduction to 68F and photoperiod from 16hr days to 8hr days. After 6-8 weeks, I began returning parameters to normal. As of now, days are 15hrs w/ NTL at 86F basking site w/ ambient temps in the upper 70's to low 80's.

As far as misting, yup, that was for you, Jaykis. I normally don't mist much at all (except Carpets when breeding), but I think my home's dry heat has been dropping the humidity too low and the Timors have been having shed difficulty. Noticing the level of activity after misting was was kind of a serendipitous thing which led me to question its role in reproduction.
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"He who would stifle debate rather than engage in it, does so at the expense of his integrity and credibility"

Mike Curtin

Mine tend to freak out at the slightest change in their caging, and misting might bring the same results. I try to minimize handling as much as possible. I've often wondered why they smear feces all around the cage, until I saw Marc Spidaro's talk on Boelans at the last NARB. He noticed in the wild that it was their way of marking their area of their "burrow". Could be the same thing.
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1.1 Blackheaded pythons
1.1 Woma
2.1 Aussie Olives
1.1 Timors
1.1 Bloods
1.1 Balls
2.2 IJ Carpets
1.0 Coastal Carpets
1.2 Macklotts
1.1 Papuan Olives
2.0 Jungle Carpet
0.1 Carpondro
0.1 Jungle/Diamond cross
.1 Brazilian Rainbow boas
0.1 child, CB
0.1 wife, WC

That could def. explain the messiness I've been trying to keep the misting on the subtle side....floors and walls, but not the snakes themselves...they haven't seemed to mind other than becoming more active with the increased humidity. I just papered the glass doors in hopes that it will minimize my impact on their behavior and photoperiods...I work till 9pm, which means disturbing the light cycles is sometimes unavoidable. Fingers crossed!
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"He who would stifle debate rather than engage in it, does so at the expense of his integrity and credibility"

Mike Curtin

My male just shed yesterday, and almost a complete shed. Maybe the humidity isn't as bad as I thought.
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1.1 Blackheaded pythons
1.1 Woma
2.1 Aussie Olives
1.1 Timors
1.1 Bloods
1.1 Balls
2.2 IJ Carpets
1.0 Coastal Carpets
1.2 Macklotts
1.1 Papuan Olives
2.0 Jungle Carpet
0.1 Carpondro
0.1 Jungle/Diamond cross
.1 Brazilian Rainbow boas
0.1 child, CB
0.1 wife, WC