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I am sure there are but I was wondering if this is something I should look forward in the next few years...

Clay,
There are only two bloodlines of gibsoni in captivity that I know of. I two love those pits but did my research a couple years ago and the few founding captives are like ten years old now. Anyone correct me if I'm wrong.
Btw how are my babies doing? i want to come over and check them out. give me a call
Nate

Ah, from what I understood it was the p.l.lineaticollis that was brought up. In two individual pairs and bred by amazon reptile (maybe wrong), got him name somewhere in one of my saved e-mails... i can dig it up. I talked with several people regarding them and really everyone had the same thing to say.

Dug it up... I'm directly quoting someone here regarding the p.l.lineaticollis:

"A guy named Tom Moise brought 2.2 into the US from Mexico, although I
don't remember how.
He got them to produce 2 years in a row with clutch sizes around 30
eggs. He sold them all into the general publis 2-3 years ago.
He then got rid of his brreders. Some to the San Antonio zoo and I
forget where the other pair went."

Take a peek at the photo at the bottom. Would not be too surprised if you've seen this Nate but what the hell, maybe you haven't. I've stared at the snake for so long in this photo... it's an amazing animal to look at!

As far as the gibsoni, I found a few photos by somewhat random searching "gibsoni" on Google-image search and browsing thru about 2,500 images. I e-mailed so many people trying to get good information and it's hard to get information out of people! I ran a site: lineaticollis.com. I decided to take it down (not completely) because it was too difficult finding people to contribute information. I did get a lot of good help (thanks guys) just not enough.

Anyhow, I have a Dr. friend down in Eugene who has done a lot of work in South America and may know what I need to know. The guy is nothing short of amazing when it comes to his vast knowledge of reptiles! He just called me back (this guy was hard to get a hold of, lol!) this past weekend so I'm thinking I might pursue this once again. I've also been in contact with a few more people with some info on the p.l.gibsoni. So, hopefully, pulling together a nice article about p.l.lineaticollis and gibsoni is something I can muster. I JUST NEED INFO YOU CAN'T GOOGLE, lol.

I thought I would get my feet wet with this question. Get a feel for what other people might know or say. Doesn't look like much, but hey! It's good seeing you post again. You reminded me about the forums when I got the pines, it's been a good 2 or 3 years since I've visited last.

OK, the big black pine female! All I can say is: "beep." She has really grown since I've gotten her. Rat pinks is where it is at, they've all been growing like mad off of them. Well, unfortunately the smaller, more choice in color, escaped this past weekend. I pulled the water dish and washed it. When I returned, the lid was about one inch back. Should have clamped it down. I really searched for her but could not find anything. The cat has been living in the bathroom but we let her out Wednesday for her mental sake. She found a new use of our sink! I would be bad too if I was locked in the bathroom. She got a lot of play time, but anyhow... Gwen and I are moving to Medford, OR. Saturday we are making our first haul down. So I will find her while we pack. Everything is getting unpacked from shoe boxes and cloths re-folded. No spot is going un-checked!

I can talk for days on the females. I just got a hypo stillwater female... such a beautiful snakes! Anyhow, I only got up for some water... Need to get some sleep, I have a lot to pack before Saturday.

By the way buddy, enjoy this pic! She is a biter! But still a good snake none-the-less. I love my girls!

I know Carl Franklin who works at a Zoo in TX and has written articles for Reptiles mag had a pair of Gibsoni. I think he told me they were the only ones in the US? He mentioned it was almost impossible for him to complete the mission and get them and that they were still considered property of the Guatemalen govt even though they were in his possession. He got a few clutches of infertile eggs and both adults ended up dying. That's the only info I ever got on them. If I manage to get in touch with him I will ask. He used to laugh and say only Pit nerds like me cared about them LOL. Somehow I think at least a handful of other nerds may like them too Tom Stevens
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Yeah, I've talked to Carl a little while ago. He attempted to breed them for about 10 years, got one clutch and none hatched. I know of someone though who knows a lot about them. A researcher from Guatemala and he knew of a place in the US who had some for research and is looking into it.

Thanks tho,
Clay