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Been waiting all day for Fedex to deliver, I bought three boas from basically boas and wow, they look great right outa the bag, even cool and not in their best colors!!! Snapped afew pics real quick before I put them away to warm up and settle in.

Abigail, a 2007 striped salmon abby line female...

Norman, a 2007 striped salmon abby male from Mikes other litter...

And Peach, a super salmon from Mikes Peachy Salmon line...

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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Three great new additions Dave, but Xmas isn't until Tuesday. Are you going to wrap them back up and open them Christmas morning?
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Thank you,

Tim

0.1 wc girlfriend- Melissa (still nippy even after a year and a half of loving care)
0.1 CRB- Tempest
0.1 JCP- Serenity
1.0 Black Cat- Chester A Arthur

Well, I did hide them away, outa sight, does that count?
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

I guess as long as you run down stairs in your pjs, thro open the cages, and pretend to be surprised
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Thank you,

Tim

0.1 wc girlfriend- Melissa (still nippy even after a year and a half of loving care)
0.1 CRB- Tempest
0.1 JCP- Serenity
1.0 Black Cat- Chester A Arthur

dave running downstairs at the but crack of dawn in teenage mutant ninja turtle PJ's lol

Peach looks good Dave and definately notice a good overall body coloration on her I just hope she just doesn't get redder than minej/k not really haha lol I was thinking about Reeses today after I looked at the horrible pics I took yesterday and can't even come close so I just want another camera really bad thanks for sharing though
Bob

Yeah, and those are all in crappy lighting with cool, just out of shipping bag salmons. Salmons are a lot like mood rings, get em cool and they hide all the pretty colors!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

very nice choise dave. im not a fan of salmon boas at all but those i have to admit are beautiful
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-Stephen-

0.1 soon to be wifey (hopefully)
1.0 rotwiler/chow (Boomer-wifey's pooch)
1.0 norm corn (Jake aka grumpy old terdhead)
0.1 col redtail boa (Dixie-my baby girl)
0.1 ball python (Bella- wifey's baby girl)

hopeful for not to distant future:
--brazillian rainbow boas 1 female for sure
2 or 3? maybe a breeding pair?

more distant future hopefuls
1 or 2 of each maybe a breeding pair?
--anery boa (ooooh)
--jungle carpet python (love to have 1 or 2)
--dumeril boa (ahhhh)

slightly more wishful thinking
--hypo br rainbow boa (love em)
--anery br rainbow boa (oooh even better!!)
--motely boa (gorgeous!!)

you can leave this forumlol I can understand not liking the "orange-tail" line but the salmon line. Some salmons have deep reds over the body like Dave's '05 salmon pastel Reeses. I have 3 salmons (het for sunglow) and love 'em all especially my little red one. Here is one of Dave pics

Reeses

and Dave's little girl Peach will be a knockout in a few months too. Sorry I spelled your name wrong just getting your attention to pull your chain Welcome to the forum it's awesome
Bob

lol nah its all good ill just tuck my red tail between my legs and leave....

no they are nice just IMO they arnt the prettiest of snakes. when it comes to boas i really like a light light grey with dark patterns with a bright red tail or no red at all. im not a big fan of light reds pinkish and the light red-browns.... sorry man i hate to say it but i dont like albinos either. anerys are nice and hypo BRBs are too is gives them that nice orange yeah
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-Stephen-

0.1 soon to be wifey (hopefully)
1.0 rotwiler/chow (Boomer-wifey's pooch)
1.0 norm corn (Jake aka grumpy old terdhead)
0.1 col redtail boa (Dixie-my baby girl)
0.1 ball python (Bella- wifey's baby girl)

hopeful for not to distant future:
--brazillian rainbow boas 1 female for sure
2 or 3? maybe a breeding pair?

more distant future hopefuls
1 or 2 of each maybe a breeding pair?
--anery boa (ooooh)
--jungle carpet python (love to have 1 or 2)
--dumeril boa (ahhhh)

slightly more wishful thinking
--hypo br rainbow boa (love em)
--anery br rainbow boa (oooh even better!!)
--motely boa (gorgeous!!)

What you crazy but Dave says beauty is in the eye of the beholder so go figure but I like albinos but the ones that stand out are the high contrast and you have to have red too. A light light grey snake huh, maybe a good anery that doesn't have brown in the saddles so you like these

a little brown in the saddles but still nice

this isn't pretty???

a pretty suri

and the only one of the snakes that are mine lol is this one

nice chatting with you
Bob

LOL, I replied before reading this post.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

how about this

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-Stephen-

0.1 soon to be wifey (hopefully)
1.0 rotwiler/chow (Boomer-wifey's pooch)
1.0 norm corn (Jake aka grumpy old terdhead)
0.1 col redtail boa (Dixie-my baby girl)
0.1 ball python (Bella- wifey's baby girl)

hopeful for not to distant future:
--brazillian rainbow boas 1 female for sure
2 or 3? maybe a breeding pair?

more distant future hopefuls
1 or 2 of each maybe a breeding pair?
--anery boa (ooooh)
--jungle carpet python (love to have 1 or 2)
--dumeril boa (ahhhh)

slightly more wishful thinking
--hypo br rainbow boa (love em)
--anery br rainbow boa (oooh even better!!)
--motely boa (gorgeous!!)

once i get better at this picture posting i'll get ya a few of my baby girl
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-Stephen-

0.1 soon to be wifey (hopefully)
1.0 rotwiler/chow (Boomer-wifey's pooch)
1.0 norm corn (Jake aka grumpy old terdhead)
0.1 col redtail boa (Dixie-my baby girl)
0.1 ball python (Bella- wifey's baby girl)

hopeful for not to distant future:
--brazillian rainbow boas 1 female for sure
2 or 3? maybe a breeding pair?

more distant future hopefuls
1 or 2 of each maybe a breeding pair?
--anery boa (ooooh)
--jungle carpet python (love to have 1 or 2)
--dumeril boa (ahhhh)

slightly more wishful thinking
--hypo br rainbow boa (love em)
--anery br rainbow boa (oooh even better!!)
--motely boa (gorgeous!!)

It's screaming jungle to me but I don't see no head stripe from that angle and also resembles a few siblings from Mark H.'s big jungle litter he had earlier this year which Dave has a male and real nice female but definately like that one though
Bob

yeah i might have bowrrowed that one from daves page heh heh sorry, but that was a good show of the light grey i like and darker markings
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-Stephen-

0.1 soon to be wifey (hopefully)
1.0 rotwiler/chow (Boomer-wifey's pooch)
1.0 norm corn (Jake aka grumpy old terdhead)
0.1 col redtail boa (Dixie-my baby girl)
0.1 ball python (Bella- wifey's baby girl)

hopeful for not to distant future:
--brazillian rainbow boas 1 female for sure
2 or 3? maybe a breeding pair?

more distant future hopefuls
1 or 2 of each maybe a breeding pair?
--anery boa (ooooh)
--jungle carpet python (love to have 1 or 2)
--dumeril boa (ahhhh)

slightly more wishful thinking
--hypo br rainbow boa (love em)
--anery br rainbow boa (oooh even better!!)
--motely boa (gorgeous!!)

but I use a couple of Dave's pics without permission every once in awhile (quite often really) Dave has some very nice snakes and there wouldn't be too many that I couldn't put a name, origin or both too cuz I love quite a few and have grown very jealous of Dave since I've been chatting with him through KS for about 13 months or so but don't tell him that

here's my possible jungle that will prove for me in '11 hopefully and give me some Jungle Lipstick Sunglows and/or Albinos

you know how mean and nasty he gets!!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

LOL, I was thinking it was a nice looking jungle!!!! Never occurred to me it was mine!!!

How do you like this one...

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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

yeah dave your jungle is gorgeous lol

so what is this one is it an anery? i like this one alot too. i think between the jungle and an anery, an anery is more in my realistic price range, and after i get my BRB (or two) thats next on the list!! i cant wait... i kinda get a little ahead of myself sometimes lol
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-Stephen-

0.1 soon to be wifey (hopefully)
1.0 rotwiler/chow (Boomer-wifey's pooch)
1.0 norm corn (Jake aka grumpy old terdhead)
0.1 col redtail boa (Dixie-my baby girl)
0.1 ball python (Bella- wifey's baby girl)

hopeful for not to distant future:
--brazillian rainbow boas 1 female for sure
2 or 3? maybe a breeding pair?

more distant future hopefuls
1 or 2 of each maybe a breeding pair?
--anery boa (ooooh)
--jungle carpet python (love to have 1 or 2)
--dumeril boa (ahhhh)

slightly more wishful thinking
--hypo br rainbow boa (love em)
--anery br rainbow boa (oooh even better!!)
--motely boa (gorgeous!!)

That one was anery pos het snow, a real good looking anery!!!!

Have him in with Sierra (albino pos het snow) but have seen no action. One of my pairs I'm not really expecting to do anything this year.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

if you mate two anerys will you get anerys or just het for anery.... or both probably right??
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-Stephen-

0.1 soon to be wifey (hopefully)
1.0 rotwiler/chow (Boomer-wifey's pooch)
1.0 norm corn (Jake aka grumpy old terdhead)
0.1 col redtail boa (Dixie-my baby girl)
0.1 ball python (Bella- wifey's baby girl)

hopeful for not to distant future:
--brazillian rainbow boas 1 female for sure
2 or 3? maybe a breeding pair?

more distant future hopefuls
1 or 2 of each maybe a breeding pair?
--anery boa (ooooh)
--jungle carpet python (love to have 1 or 2)
--dumeril boa (ahhhh)

slightly more wishful thinking
--hypo br rainbow boa (love em)
--anery br rainbow boa (oooh even better!!)
--motely boa (gorgeous!!)

If you have an anery (which is recessive) then it has two anery genes. If an anery mates with another anery then the offspring will get one gene from each parent resulting in all anery's since there is 4 anery genes present and no normal genes.

If an anery mated with a het anery then the result would be along the lines of half anery's and half het anery's. One parent would have 2 anery genes so all of its offspring would result in getting an anery gene and if the het anery has one normal gene and one anery gene then the likelihood (sp?) of its offspring getting an anery gene is 50% percent which is why the resulting litter would have half and half.
Bob

ahhh good deal, i got ya so if you had two het together 1 norm and 1 anery gene from each there would be a 25% chance correct? now thats because its a recessive gene got it thanks
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-Stephen-

0.1 soon to be wifey (hopefully)
1.0 rotwiler/chow (Boomer-wifey's pooch)
1.0 norm corn (Jake aka grumpy old terdhead)
0.1 col redtail boa (Dixie-my baby girl)
0.1 ball python (Bella- wifey's baby girl)

hopeful for not to distant future:
--brazillian rainbow boas 1 female for sure
2 or 3? maybe a breeding pair?

more distant future hopefuls
1 or 2 of each maybe a breeding pair?
--anery boa (ooooh)
--jungle carpet python (love to have 1 or 2)
--dumeril boa (ahhhh)

slightly more wishful thinking
--hypo br rainbow boa (love em)
--anery br rainbow boa (oooh even better!!)
--motely boa (gorgeous!!)

the normals that were remaining which would be about 75%, now 2 out of every three would have the probability of being a het carrier so they are called 66% het anery and if only one parent was het anery in a breeding and the other parent carried no anery gene then that offspring would be labeled 50% anery
Bob

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-Stephen-

0.1 soon to be wifey (hopefully)
1.0 rotwiler/chow (Boomer-wifey's pooch)
1.0 norm corn (Jake aka grumpy old terdhead)
0.1 col redtail boa (Dixie-my baby girl)
0.1 ball python (Bella- wifey's baby girl)

hopeful for not to distant future:
--brazillian rainbow boas 1 female for sure
2 or 3? maybe a breeding pair?

more distant future hopefuls
1 or 2 of each maybe a breeding pair?
--anery boa (ooooh)
--jungle carpet python (love to have 1 or 2)
--dumeril boa (ahhhh)

slightly more wishful thinking
--hypo br rainbow boa (love em)
--anery br rainbow boa (oooh even better!!)
--motely boa (gorgeous!!)

so whith these 66% or even the 50% possible hets... the only way to know for sure if they actually are hets (other than CSI blood testing) is to breed them and the offspring will be the result. if there are anery babies then the parent is het, if all normal then no het?
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-Stephen-

0.1 soon to be wifey (hopefully)
1.0 rotwiler/chow (Boomer-wifey's pooch)
1.0 norm corn (Jake aka grumpy old terdhead)
0.1 col redtail boa (Dixie-my baby girl)
0.1 ball python (Bella- wifey's baby girl)

hopeful for not to distant future:
--brazillian rainbow boas 1 female for sure
2 or 3? maybe a breeding pair?

more distant future hopefuls
1 or 2 of each maybe a breeding pair?
--anery boa (ooooh)
--jungle carpet python (love to have 1 or 2)
--dumeril boa (ahhhh)

slightly more wishful thinking
--hypo br rainbow boa (love em)
--anery br rainbow boa (oooh even better!!)
--motely boa (gorgeous!!)

I believe you have the concept correct, but sometimes nature does not go by the statistical outcomes in the textbooks.

>>so whith these 66% or even the 50% possible hets... the only way to know for sure if they actually are hets (other than CSI blood testing) is to breed them and the offspring will be the result. if there are anery babies then the parent is het, if all normal then no het?
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>>-Stephen-
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right thats a good point too kinda like flipping a coin... if you flip heads 499 time in a row what are the chances your gonna flip heads again? well its still 50/50 the 500th flip doesnt care about any of the others its either gonna be heads or tails 50/50... however if you say what are the chances im gonna flip heads 500 time in a row thats a little different but you get what im saying
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-Stephen-

0.1 soon to be wifey (hopefully)
1.0 rotwiler/chow (Boomer-wifey's pooch)
1.0 norm corn (Jake aka grumpy old terdhead)
0.1 col redtail boa (Dixie-my baby girl)
0.1 ball python (Bella- wifey's baby girl)

hopeful for not to distant future:
--brazillian rainbow boas 1 female for sure
2 or 3? maybe a breeding pair?

more distant future hopefuls
1 or 2 of each maybe a breeding pair?
--anery boa (ooooh)
--jungle carpet python (love to have 1 or 2)
--dumeril boa (ahhhh)

slightly more wishful thinking
--hypo br rainbow boa (love em)
--anery br rainbow boa (oooh even better!!)
--motely boa (gorgeous!!)

That's why it is important to have a parent with the two recessive genes and the other with one so there are visuals and 100% hets. If no offspring is found in a pair that is 66% het then that means at least one or both parents are not carriers so some people label their offspring as 25% which is wrong and should be labeled as just a possible as price should stay close to normal status IMO
Bob

so two recessive genes is what makes it visual? and the best way to be 100% sure the normal looking babies are het is to breed a anery with a het anery. that way even the normals have to have 1 recessive gene for sure. i think i got it if that sums up the simple recessive gene sounds good thanks
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-Stephen-

0.1 soon to be wifey (hopefully)
1.0 rotwiler/chow (Boomer-wifey's pooch)
1.0 norm corn (Jake aka grumpy old terdhead)
0.1 col redtail boa (Dixie-my baby girl)
0.1 ball python (Bella- wifey's baby girl)

hopeful for not to distant future:
--brazillian rainbow boas 1 female for sure
2 or 3? maybe a breeding pair?

more distant future hopefuls
1 or 2 of each maybe a breeding pair?
--anery boa (ooooh)
--jungle carpet python (love to have 1 or 2)
--dumeril boa (ahhhh)

slightly more wishful thinking
--hypo br rainbow boa (love em)
--anery br rainbow boa (oooh even better!!)
--motely boa (gorgeous!!)

When combining animals with multiple morphs, you can even still keepo the visual outcome defining the genetics of the individual providing you have the right genes in the parents. I call these "prime" pairings. For example Anery het albino (snow) x Albino het Anery (snow). There are four phenotypes (visual looks) from that pairing...

Snow
Albino
Anery
Normal

And because of the genetics the single recessive genes are known so the phenotypes become...

Snow
Albino het Snow
Anery het Snow
DH snow

And even better the odds are 25% for each!!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

a hypo or salmon gene to an anery then that makes it a ghost. Since hypo is a dominant mutation and is visual in the het form (that makes it not recessive) and if you bred a anery x hypo het anery.......... then the probability would be half of the anery's that would make out should have a hypo gene attached making it a ghost. Then if it is ghost and double het ghost (hypo het anery) then the odds are that 1 out of every 3 will be super hypo whether it be a ghost or a super hypo het anery.

to find out the dominant and co-dominant mutations, I label them
H= normal
h=hypo or salmon

__H____x____h

H_HH___Hh

h_Hh___hh

1/4 HH= normal
1/2 Hh= hypo
1/4 hh= super hypo

further reduced as

1/4 normal
3/4 hypo 33% super

make sense?

Yes. If the baby gets the mutant allele (or recessive gene) from each parent, it will be a visual for the mutation.

I like to make a Punnett Square for things:

| a a
--------------------
A | Aa Aa
---|-----------------
a | aa aa

a = mutant allele (let's say for Anerythrism in this case)
A = normal allele (ie, not anery)

The top of the table represents a "visual", an Anery in this case (ie, two mutant allesles)

The side represents a Het for anery (ie, one normal and one mutant allele).

So from the table you can see that there's a 50% chance the offspring will be a het (since the normal allele "overrides" the mutant allele) and a 50% chance the baby will be a visual (ie, both alleles are mutant.)

Making the Punnett Square for two recessive mutations is even more fun!

Thanks,
Ed

>>so two recessive genes is what makes it visual? and the best way to be 100% sure the normal looking babies are het is to breed a anery with a het anery. that way even the normals have to have 1 recessive gene for sure. i think i got it if that sums up the simple recessive gene sounds good thanks
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>>-Stephen-

Hey Ed, I no longer run any punnet squares, I do so many mixed morphs what if's I fu=igured out the mathematical way to calculate the outcomes.

First treat each morph seperately with it's appropriate rules for passing on.

Each morph will have it's own possible number of phenotypica;l outcome. Typically two except for codminant ones.

Then to find out odds on any single outcome, multiply the fractions from each morph. Remember each morph must be used even if the outcome is normal.

for example....

albino motley het anery x hypo motley DH snow, sounds pretty complicated huh. Not really, there are four different morphs listed...

Motley - codominant, three phenotypes, het x het:
1/4 super motley
1/2 motley
1/4 motley

Hypo - dominant, two phenotypes, normal x het:
1/2 hypo
1/2 normal

Albino - recessive, two phenotypes, homozygous x het:
1/2 albino
1/2 het albino

Anery - recessive, two phenotypes, het x het
1/4 anery
3/4 66% het

Total number of possible outcomes are the product of each morph phenotypical outcomes. In this example 3 x 2 x 2 x 2 = 24

Most of the time you only want ot know the odds on one or two of the specific outcomes like.

super motley, hypo, albino, anery - 1/4 x 1/2 x 1/2 x 1/4 = 1/64

or motley snow = motley, normal(for hypo) albino anery - 1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2 x 1/4 = 1/32
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

cuz you mistyped right here but I'll settle it cuz I owe youlol but you left out 1/4 normal but prolly caught after you posted it so now we just need an edit feature

Motley - codominant, three phenotypes, het x het:
1/4 super motley
1/2 motley
1/4 motley

Thank god typos don't really mean you haveto give away your snakes, or I'd have none left
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Dave,

Awesome, that is much better than drawing the Punnett Squares, especially for multiple mutations. I remember you posted this somewhere (Boa forum??), but I'm glad you posted it again here since I didn't have much time to read it then, and afterwards I forgot about it.

Thanks again, great post!

Ed

np, so you got it even with the typo's???
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

LOL, I make so many typos myself these days, I understand things better when there are typos. Good stuff.

Thanks,
Ed

>>np, so you got it even with the typo's???
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>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>Dave Colling
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You can still possibly prove it's a het, though, by breeding with a known 100% het. Such a match will statistically produce 1 anery out of 4 offspring if the unknown snake is a het. But like Bob says, it will be easier to prove the snake is a het if it's paired with an anery (ie, snake with two mutant alleles), since that should produce 1 anery out of every 2 offspring.

Thanks,
Ed

>>That's why it is important to have a parent with the two recessive genes and the other with one so there are visuals and 100% hets. If no offspring is found in a pair that is 66% het then that means at least one or both parents are not carriers so some people label their offspring as 25% which is wrong and should be labeled as just a possible as price should stay close to normal status IMO
>>Bob

Because even with the 25% outcome and a litter of 16, having NO Anery's is still within statistical odds. The pos het bred to a visual morph having 50% probability, even a small litter is more statistically significant!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

yeah lol but still it comes down to the best way to prove a gene is to know the parents and breed the snake in question
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-Stephen-

0.1 soon to be wifey (hopefully)
1.0 rotwiler/chow (Boomer-wifey's pooch)
1.0 norm corn (Jake aka grumpy old terdhead)
0.1 col redtail boa (Dixie-my baby girl)
0.1 ball python (Bella- wifey's baby girl)

hopeful for not to distant future:
--brazillian rainbow boas 1 female for sure
2 or 3? maybe a breeding pair?

more distant future hopefuls
1 or 2 of each maybe a breeding pair?
--anery boa (ooooh)
--jungle carpet python (love to have 1 or 2)
--dumeril boa (ahhhh)

slightly more wishful thinking
--hypo br rainbow boa (love em)
--anery br rainbow boa (oooh even better!!)
--motely boa (gorgeous!!)

That's OK, we won't ask you to leave just because you don't like pretty snakes.

Seriously, we all like different things and some areas overlap. I have a couple of breeder friends nearby, each of which is like me and working with two species. I'm doing BRB's and BCI's, Mike does BRB's and GTP's and my other friend does BCI's and BP's!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

ohh so now is that my offical induction lol im a part of the club yay! your right though the forum is awesome all your guys rock!
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-Stephen-

0.1 soon to be wifey (hopefully)
1.0 rotwiler/chow (Boomer-wifey's pooch)
1.0 norm corn (Jake aka grumpy old terdhead)
0.1 col redtail boa (Dixie-my baby girl)
0.1 ball python (Bella- wifey's baby girl)

hopeful for not to distant future:
--brazillian rainbow boas 1 female for sure
2 or 3? maybe a breeding pair?

more distant future hopefuls
1 or 2 of each maybe a breeding pair?
--anery boa (ooooh)
--jungle carpet python (love to have 1 or 2)
--dumeril boa (ahhhh)

slightly more wishful thinking
--hypo br rainbow boa (love em)
--anery br rainbow boa (oooh even better!!)
--motely boa (gorgeous!!)

Beautiful boas, I'm sure even better in person. Very clean!

Now why am I getting this urge for bagels and lox...?

Thanks,
Ed

>>Been waiting all day for Fedex to deliver, I bought three boas from basically boas and wow, they look great right outa the bag, even cool and not in their best colors!!! Snapped afew pics real quick before I put them away to warm up and settle in.
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>>Abigail, a 2007 striped salmon abby line female...
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>>
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Thanks Ed but don't be coming to me for your lox!! I don't share well!!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Very nice!!
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Aubrey Ross

©
www.SlipstreamSerpents.com

Thanks Aubrey, I'm officially done with acquisitions!!! (for 2007 )
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Something I gotta have pops up in the next week and a half!!!

But then again, I doubt I could get it in befor ethe first so would count into next years anyways!!!!!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Congrats!!!
How large/long do you expect these guys to get?

I would love to breed these guys but mine is quite large, I would say roughly 40plus pounds and close to 10' of course the young fellow is roughly 16 years old...

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Jason A.
"Long time Herper, first year Breeder `07."

Of course every one is an individual but around 8 feet +/-

Daaaaannnngggggg, I had no idea they got that large, what are you feeding it???
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

He eats one of these every one-two weeks..

500plus grams...

I have measured him and he is around 9'10"...

My father and I guess is around 40 pounds but I never weighed him. I might break out the human scale and check but my wife doesn't like that idea hehe and my "snake" scale I personally use doesn't go that high..

Logic though would say he doesn't weigh that much based on his meals but if he was under 30 I would be surprised..
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Jason A.
"Long time Herper, first year Breeder `07."

You can get an idea of his size using those bricks.. Tthe rats I get are about the same as a brick, some of the biggest rats I have ever seen well except for...

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Jason A.
"Long time Herper, first year Breeder `07."

you were talking about this one...

gallery.kingsnake.com/data/130102gaboon-med.jpg

and that your viper was 10 foot and 40 lbs. Then you talk about using the human scale for him.....I was really wondering how you survived this long!!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

>>you were talking about this one...
>>

>>
>>and that your viper was 10 foot and 40 lbs. Then you talk about using the human scale for him.....I was really wondering how you survived this long!!!
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>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>Dave Colling
>>
>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
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>>
>>
>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
>>
>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>26.49 BRB
>>20.21 BCI
>>And those are only the breeders
>>
>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

>>you were talking about this one...
>>
>>gallery.kingsnake.com/data/130102gaboon-med.jpg
>>
>>and that your viper was 10 foot and 40 lbs. Then you talk about using the human scale for him.....I was really wondering how you survived this long!!!
>>-----
>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>Dave Colling
>>
>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
>>
>>
>>
>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
>>
>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>26.49 BRB
>>20.21 BCI
>>And those are only the breeders
>>
>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

lol I posted it with my name, that photo was taken at ReptiLand in central PA I don't keep any hots.
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Jason A.
"Long time Herper, first year Breeder `07."

Yeah, I know how that goes! I told myself no more BRBs about a month ago... and well... I have been naughty, again! I just bought one that has aberrancies like I've never seen before... pretty neat! Just gotta wait till spring......
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Aubrey Ross

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www.SlipstreamSerpents.com