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what this guy is doing. I have been breeding my crystal male to a spider, a pastel and a super pastel. Hopefully i'll see some eggs in a few months.
Bruce Delles c/o Twin Cities
IN THE RETAIL REPTILE BUSINESS SINCE 1978

That Crystal is awesome looking, congrats on those great hook-ups. Looking forward to seeing what you produce. Good luck. Mark Petros

Nice Bruce!

What would you call that morph?
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Happy Herping,
Jody Barnes
Royal Kreationz

My snakes aren't fat, they're big boned.

very exciting stuff!!!! put me on the list for one of them babies

This should be a triple co-dom mojave x spider x "special female" correct? I know the genetics with the spider and mojo but don't know a whole lot about the "special female" from Tom. I would assume she is co-dom since the crystal came from her first generation breeding with a mojo.
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Happy Herping,
Jody Barnes
Royal Kreationz

My snakes aren't fat, they're big boned.

I'm waiting anxiously to see what the relationship is between the special female mutation and mojave. "Special" might turn out to be another new mutant version of the same gene as lesser, mojave, phantom, Vin Russo, mocha, hidden/dilute, and probably a few others not yet named. In this scenario the crystal would be sort of a super like the leucistics, the super phantom, or the platy. The big test will be if the crystal male can give both the special mutation and the mojave mutation to the same offspring as with unrelated combos like pewter or bumblebee or if each offspring only gets one or the other like with supers in the white snake complex.

Are you saying that a bumblebee X normal can produce a bumblebee?

Yes, the production of killer bee proves that pastel and spider are mutations of different genes and it was done so quickly that I suspect they are also on different chromosomes or at least not close together on the same chromosome. So I would expect bumblebee X normal to produce 25% chance bumblebee. Same with pewter X normal (produce 25% chance pewter and 25% chance normal).

But platy X true normal can't seem to produce platy and the cross line leucistics (like mojave lesser) seem to just produce the two parent types when bred to normals showing a relationship between the ingredients in those combos.

Good luck!!!

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Charles Glaspie

Its nice to see that I'm not the only one with balls up in this frozen north of MN.
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1.0 Pastel, soon to be more. *fingers crossed*

WOW!!!!!!!

Very, very nice, you must be excited...

Looks like you will beat me on that Spider COMBO!!!!!

Kev

>>what this guy is doing. I have been breeding my crystal male to a spider, a pastel and a super pastel. Hopefully i'll see some eggs in a few months.
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Kevin
I'm not trying to beat anybody, but if I were to get lucky on this breeding and we were to keep score it would be the following:
Bruce/TCR 1 New Morph
Kevin/NERD 999 New Morphs
What you have done in the last few years with morphs is beyond what most people could even dream of. Best of luck this season.
Bruce Delles c/o Twin Cities Reptiles
IN THE RETAIL REPTILE BUSINESS SINCE 1978

Bruce 1 New Morph
Kevin 999 New Morphs
Kevin = TONS of Horrible New Music (actually just noise).......

Haaaaaa,

Brian Potter