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QUESTION??

boas4u Dec 29, 2007 10:21 PM

i put a little 18 month old hypo/salmon in a cage that has a peruvian female and another male in it. there hadnt been any action with the other two all season so i thought this would get things going. in less than FIVE minutes the little hypo was all over the peruvian female. WOW! i was floored WOW! OK, for my question. if this goes well i know half will be hypo and half will be normal but can i get a peruvian hypo out of this? if so does anyone have a pic of one? i dont think i have ever seen one. thanks!

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Ophidia_Junkie Dec 29, 2007 10:41 PM

Correction. Half will be SALMON/Peruvian cross, and half will be Peruvian Mutt.

Why in the world you would want to put a Salmon in with a Peruvian boa is beyond me. I understand the whole competition thing, and trying to generate spark, but you will have a mixed litter now. Should have just stuck in the shed of another male so you would maintain control of your breeding efforts.

Who knows what the neonates will look like if it is successful. That's one combo that never even entered my mind.

Good luck any way. Hope it all goes well.
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boas4u Dec 29, 2007 10:56 PM

thanks for the info. but i dont understand, there are salmon jungles why not salmon peruvians? why would this cross not be a good thing?

Ophidia_Junkie Dec 29, 2007 11:16 PM

Didn't say it wouldn't be a good thing. It may throw something out of this world. Or maybe not. I said I don't understand why.

Crossing the ssp barrier, to many, including me, is not a favorable act. That's all
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strictly4fun Dec 30, 2007 01:41 AM

Got a better pic of your salmon jungle by any chance?
Bob

boas4u Dec 30, 2007 09:49 AM

sorry! he is salmon but not a jungle.



and this is a better pic of her

charmer Dec 30, 2007 12:33 PM

Are you sure she is full Peruvian? The only reason I ask is her tail is fairly multi-colored or blotchy, usually when I see a Peruvian, Suriname, Guyana, etc... the tail is generally a pretty solid red or brown. Not to say she isn't full blooded or anything, I couldn't see the tail all that well in the pics, but the pattern on her is fairly typical.
As for the breeding, it is happening now... you may get lucky with the babies, but make sure when you sell any that you let people know exactly what the parentage is!
Good luck!
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boas4u Dec 30, 2007 01:17 PM

better pics for you


ChrisGilbert Dec 30, 2007 01:28 PM

Looks like a cross to me.
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jscrick Dec 30, 2007 02:27 PM

Can't say about the tail saddles alone, but the entire snake does not look pure Peru to me either.
jsc
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boas4u Dec 29, 2007 11:10 PM

i understand bci x bci or bcc x bcc but bci x bcc is not unheard of. i just havent seen one (peruvian) that was a salmon. and i say why not? just think down the line of what could be.

JackJebus Dec 30, 2007 03:01 PM

by that statement it looks more like you did it on purpose than as an oops and that you are looking for acceptance more than anything.
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boas4u Dec 30, 2007 03:52 PM

jack,
this forum along with others are also used by novice boa breeders that dont have all the answers like yourself. sometimes there are real people with real questions looking for advice rather than exceptance. i think comments like yours have no place being on this forum or any other. so JACK except this, F**K OFF!

JackJebus Dec 31, 2007 06:11 PM

the thing is you didnt seem to get my point. you put a boy and a girl together in a small space something will more than likely happen. you tried calling it an oops when in all reality there is no oops when it comes to breeding boas. males are easy to spot with thier spurs. so you cant use the "i just simply didnt know" there is no reason to house snakes together so the oops thing wont work for that either.

I suppose my response would have been different if you would have said to start off "I wanted to try something different and breed x to x" your original post made it sound like you werent trying for it at all when in fact the post I originally responded to said
" i just havent seen one (peruvian) that was a salmon. and i say why not? just think down the line of what could be."

I am well aware of novice breeders being here asking questions but its good practice to ask before you try. as I believe Richard Carew stated with his response

I understand the whole competition thing, and trying to generate spark, but you will have a mixed litter now. Should have just stuck in the shed of another male so you would maintain control of your breeding efforts.

in my opinion like I said, if you didnt mean to do it then why did you allow the circumstances for your animals to get in the situation? If you ment to do it to see what would happen then why make it seem like it was an accident? If you cant take critisizm then why put yourself in that situation? I apologize if you find any of this as an attack on you because I really didnt mean it to come off that way at all. I find beauty in a lot of hybrids and I have defended it by saying on different posts if they can do it let them do it. I just cant stand a man going back on his judgement saying it was an accident when it in all reality wasnt.
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jscrick Dec 30, 2007 04:24 PM

Here's what I think -- Peruvians are a primarily yellow with black boa.
Salmon is an effort to bring out more red and reduce the yellow, as well as the black.
Adding the Peruvian would be a step backward in producing clean Sunglows.
jsc
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boas4u Dec 30, 2007 04:32 PM

that does make sence. thanks

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