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Here he is, fresh from the U.K! He's COMPLETELY Patternless! I'm afraid to love him to death or give him cooties from my other snakes, so I hardly ever touch him. Ha!

He's pretty neat to see in person. There isn't a spot or blemish on his entire blessed body. Besides the dorsal and lateral scales, his belly really gives it away that he's something unique...it's very clear - just short of transparent.

As far as I know, he is the only Patternless TPRS. He was born in '02, and his parents and siblings are all blonde-patterned.

As soon as the snow melts in the spring, I'll get some naturalistic shots of him. I hope to plug him into some virgin albinos, silvers, and pinkish normals in '08 and '09.

This is really exciting for ratsnake fans, because I truly believe this guy represents a third pattern morph to mix in with the amazing suboc color morphs that are out there (and growing in number).

Cheers!

Dusty

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Wow
Best of luck with that one.. May open up a whole host of strains.
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Just before putting my collection down for winter, I admired a normal blond and thought how attractive the ground color is.
Your new animal exemplifies it!
More attractive than Baja Rat????? Hard to say!!!!
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Regards, Bill McGighan

Thanks, Bill. He really doesn't compare to a rosaliae. I know we sometimes think of a Baja Ratsnake as a "patternless suboc", but Bajas are different enough from TPRSs to tell them apart from even a Patternless one, like this guy. Bajas have that dark-edged appearance on their scales in nearly all cases, but this guy has scales that are edged in light golden-yellow to orange. Baja Ratsnakes' heads/skulls are also slightly different in shape.

Furthermore, though really yellow Bajas are supposed to exist west of Loreto, I've never seen one this yellow.

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Dusty, That animal is absolutely amazing. I can't wait to see patternless albinos and snows! Chris Drake

>>Dusty, That animal is absolutely amazing. I can't wait to see patternless albinos and snows! Chris Drake

Thanks, Chris. Yeah, I think the Patternless Snow will be an INSANE morph. Can't wait to see those either.

DR
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That's exciting! I can't wait to see a patternless Silver! That will be amazing.
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Diego

Yeah, when you look at a really light Axanthic or Axanthic Blonde, they almost look blue. When you take out ALL of the pattern and are left with only color, that thing should look electric! Really stoked to see these Patternless bogeys in Orange, Silver, and Snow. The Orange ones, should SCREAM, in my opinion.

DR

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Very nice, Dusty, very nice. I guess this means you'd better start working on that addendum to your new book, right?
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Gregg
The Corn Snake Pit

Oh, it's already in there...no worries.

DR
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Super clean looking animal!Healthy looking too.Congrats.
Patternless everything in the future!

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"Upon Thy Belly Thou Shalt Go"

DR
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Pretty boring, IMO.
I like them for their pattern.

This may sound somewhat cliché, but I have yet to find any suboc boring. When judging against other species of snakes, it's tough to beat a "normal" H-snake, but my eyes boggle just as long over a beautiful Blonde or this Patternless, for instance. Just as appealing to me as their apparent beauty is their diversity in appearance of color or pattern. They're all quite unique. They have handsome and even somewhat personable faces, and all suboc faces/heads are patternless, regardless of body pattern. What's more, they have an awesome sixth "sense" of curiosity, and most are quite docile. In short, they're a joy to handle and admire. (And yes, I'm addicted.)

DR
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Can you give any info on origin? Private breeder or ?

Thanks,

Mike

Obviously River Road or close by, since its parents were blonde. The breeder's name is Richard Trant, he's mostly a boid guy, particularly chondros. He only produced one of these Patternless by pure serendipity, and this is him. He got out of subocs because of the difficulty in finding stock in the U.K., and I believe this snake's parents have passed on since.

DR
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Now that is a handsome little guy! He looks like one of my rosaliae...
When is the book coming out?????????
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Cheers
Lateralis
"I would rather be precisely wrong than approximately right"
Marion "Doc" Ford

Lateralis,

PLEASE post your Baja that you said kinda looks like him. I REALLY have to see this.

The book is due end of next month.

Dusty
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Hey Dusty, I will get a picture of her after she sheds and post it. She probably is more reddish brown than blond but the similarity is obvious. That patternless suboc should produce some fine looking babies...!
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Cheers
Lateralis
"I would rather be precisely wrong than approximately right"
Marion "Doc" Ford

In one word: Awesome. You definately should try to combine this trait with Silver, although just Axanthic Patternless may even look better IMHO.

Yes, silver is on the agenda, for sure!

Dusty
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outstanding bro. I can't wait top see the future on TPR's.
Good luck with him Dusty and let us know how his progress goes.
Just in time to make it into the book too huh? LOL....
L8r Shannon

Thank you, bud. Will do! Keep me in the loop on that Orange animal of yours.

Dusty
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Will do Bro, she is looking real good now.

Shannon

Wow, very nice Dusty! How 'bout a pic of that belly?!
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Todd Hughes

>>Wow, very nice Dusty! How 'bout a pic of that belly?!
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>>Todd Hughes

Sure! I'll try to get one of his belly up soon!

Thanks!

DR
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np
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Brad Chambers

The Avalanche has already started-it is too late for the pebbles to vote....

DR
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Fantastic, Dusty. Always cool to see new morphs in a species.

Terry
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Ratsnake Foundation

DR
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Very nice, Dusty! Lookin' forward to seeing his offspring... or at least offspring of his offspring.

-Toby Brock
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The Ratsnake Foundation

Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research

Thank you, Toby!

DR
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