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Alterna Grey

sampq2003 Jan 02, 2008 06:00 PM

Hello everyone,

We have a 3-4 year old gray-banded who has, up until recently, been in good health. About 2 1/2 weeks ago he seemed to be having trouble shedding properly and was also holding his mouth open; not gaping wide, just open about 3mm. He seemed to be having a little trouble breathing through his nostrils so we thought that might be the reason for the mouth breathing. We began soaking him daily to help with the shedding. His mouth seemed to relax and close properly during these soaks and for a while afterward. After a few days my son was getting worried and got a little over eager. During a soaking he rubbed off the soon-to-shed skin, starting at the snake's nose and going back about six inches. The skin is damaged but healing. The rest of his shedding was not rubbed off but allowed to peel gently during the soaks. The snake is still holding its mouth open and when it does close, the mouth doesn't form a tight even bite like normal. It is slightly crooked. There don't seem to be lesions or sores in the mouth but I'm not an expert on mouth rot. I've read that povidine rinses are the approprate treatment for mouth rot but don't want to put him through that if it isn't necessary. Could this be a mild mouth rot or early symptoms? Should we povidine rinse just in case? Could the dry tight skin around the mouth (before shedding), and then the damaged skin around the mouth (after forced shedding) be the cause for holding the mouth open? Any experienced input would be greatly appreciated.

Replies (3)

mssdds Jan 02, 2008 11:27 PM

It sounds to me like your alterna has an orthodontic problem, possibly a mild posterior crossbite, correctable by visiting with your local herptodontist. It could cause a speech defect if not corrected, such as a heavy lisp while hissing. LOL I'm sorry, I couldn't resist that one, as I am a dentist. I have hunted for graybands for years and have seen this same behavior a time or two. I think in both cases the jaws were distorted in an attempt to loosen the skin around the head prior to shedding. However, I don't remember it continunig to happen after the sheds. So you may very well have a problem there worth looking into. Good luck with your animal. This is a subject you can really sink your teeth into, if you know what I mean.

Marlon

maxrr Jan 04, 2008 03:42 PM

Maybe he should take some alginates and mount the casts to really get a good look at the malocclusion. He may even want to consider Hard Nightguard therapy as I'm sure the snake could have some form of TMD...Sorry, I couldn't help myself either, LOL!

Max

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Snakes to the Max

MikeRusso Jan 03, 2008 10:39 AM

It sounds to me like it might be an overall poor health issue.. But, without knowing exaclty how he is being kept it would be very difficult for any of us to diagnose exactly what the problem is.

With that, i think it's time for you to locate a good herp vet in your area and take your snake in for a visit..

Good Luck

~ Mike Russo

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