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Maybe I'm just out of it...

geckoville Aug 25, 2003 11:25 PM

but what is a "ghost" phase leopard? I have nothing against K&N, I actually have several breeders from them, but they seem to come up with all the new "designer" phases. Whether it be rainbows last season or ghosts this. I am in no way putting down K&N, they have some very nice animals, but some input would be appreciated here.

Thanks,
Uriah and Tina Walker
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powergeckos Aug 25, 2003 11:30 PM

If I remember correctly - it was a "morph" identified in the Leopard Gecko Manual. It has sort of a "ghosty" wash over it - like it's in permanent shed.

It's legit. I'm not too keen on it - but then again - I like ugly dark geckos too.

Go figure, huh?
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iluvblackfrancis Aug 25, 2003 11:32 PM

didnt Ron Tremper develope the rainbows? any way, if the ghosts are dominant like they say, thats pretty awesome. but they also say that carrot-tails are dominant. correct me if im wrong, but isn't a dominant trait, a recessive trait that hets show the trait? like if you breed, lets say a normal, aa, with a ghost, AA, and the first letter is what shows, then the babies would be Aa? im pretty sure thats how it is. the ghosts just look like a snow and a SHCT cross.
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Roi3IN Aug 26, 2003 02:49 AM

domiunant means if you breed lets say s dom hypo to a normal you should (if it is truely dominant) get all hypo offspring
hypo and tangs have been described as a line bred trait and selectively bred traits...... maybe K and N knows something we dont, but at best hypos might be co dom unless they stumbled upon something. honestly i do not know. simple recessive is what you are thinking of francis... thats where you get hets. co dom animals when bred to a normal will produce half normals and half hypos (in this case) the normals not carrying the gene for anything just plain ol normals. i dont know kinda seems like a bit of hypo on both the dominant hypos and ghosts in my opinion its a bit misleading but like i said earlier maybe they know something we dont
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iluvblackfrancis Aug 27, 2003 12:46 AM

well, i wasn't thinking of simple recessive, i know what that is. its too hard for me to explain what i was thinking of, but i had it explained to me. thanks for trying to help though.
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your head will collapse, but there's nothing in it, and you'll ask yourself, "where is my mind"

if you have AIM, IM me at chichandoCONrosa (i changed my SN)

geckoville Aug 25, 2003 11:37 PM

for clearing that up for me. I must have missed that part in the manual. After two years of working with these critters I thought that I was familiar with all of the phases out there. When I saw the ghosts it just kind of threw me off a bit.

Thanks again,
Uriah and Tina Walker
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iluvblackfrancis Aug 25, 2003 11:39 PM

i'm going to check the manual to be sure soon, but i thought that in the manual, the ghosts were the same as pastels. these K&N geckos are nothing like pastels.
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your head will collapse, but there's nothing in it, and you'll ask yourself, "where is my mind"

if you have AIM, IM me at chichandoCONrosa (i changed my SN)

powergeckos Aug 25, 2003 11:45 PM

- the ghost, (I'm going on a 40 year old memory) like I said earlier - has that permanent "in shed" look. That's whta makes them "ghost."

Pastel is - well - wussy looking ( you know what I mean!)

Real men (and geckos) have bold patterns (ignore my fru-fru tangs below).

LOL
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iluvblackfrancis Aug 25, 2003 11:47 PM

hahaha, genius, hahaha. i have a jungle i think you'd love.
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hhawk20005 Aug 25, 2003 11:48 PM

hi, does K&N have a website... just so i can c some of these ghosts... thanks
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BeArDyCrAzY Aug 25, 2003 11:59 PM


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Roi3IN Aug 26, 2003 02:53 AM

and hypo, that male sure has manly large draging testies LOL thats a rather manish trait?????? yes????
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-robin day
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powergeckos Aug 26, 2003 09:25 AM

Yes - but having a body that's so "wussy" can't be compensated by large seeds . . .
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azteclizard Aug 26, 2003 03:18 PM

If I'm not mistaken, "ghost" phase is defined and pictured in the Leopard Gecko Manual. It is not a phase they made up.
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