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I don't know if this has been discussed before, but in case it hasn't, here goes....

On Chris Nicholas' website, you'll notice that the sunglow motleys he has pictured on that category have no reduced motley pattern at all.

Up until now, i've only ever seen hypo motleys or sunglow motleys with much reduced typical motley pattern.

I've also noticed that the Hypo Aztecs produced for the first time this year did not lose their typical Aztec pattern by the Hypo gene as well.

I'm curious about this for two reasons:

1. Is the Motley gene or Aztec gene diverse in that the stronger the gene pool, the lesser effect created by introducing the hypo gene?

2. If the above is not correct, then would this mean that there are significant differences between all the hypo strains to where some affect color only and others both color and pattern???

If the latter is true, then how do we classify this major difference in the hypo gene? This raises much interest with me because i would love to isolate that specific hypo gene that affects color only and use it exclusively with my Motley and Aztec projects.

Any comments?

just my guess - with combining the hypo and Motley traits is that the reduced pigmentation of hypomenalism reduces the Motley effect.

I think the same thing happens when combining hypo and Jungle.

I'm guessing once the Anery Motley is produced - the motley effect might look even better.

has the anery Motley been produced yet??!

Patrick

Most Hypos have aberrant patterns and they really mess with pattern morphs.

The early Hypo Motleys were done using the Salmon line, and that threw wacky patterns.

I know many breeders have begun to use the Orange-tail line and have produced Hypo Motleys with a more traditional pattern.

It all has to do with the Hypo that is used.

Now with the Aztec it seems that whatever causes the pattern dominates whatever affects pattern in the Hypos, that's why the Hytecs came out with perfect Aztec pattern.
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The Hypo gene does in fact cause a lot of abberancies in pattern morphs. There have been some killer looking hypos that almost or pretty much look like JUNGLES! I think chris n. used the OT line hypo for sunglow motley but i'm not sure.

on the other note, I really do think that motley's are somewhat stronger genetically. I have a couple of yearlings that are growing like crazy. I am not power feeding at all they are fed every 7-10 days. Out of all my 06's/07's my motley's are by far the biggest. Maybe they are just my mot's i don't know.

The aztec gene seems to be real strong pattern and growth as well but it is still fairly new to determine, but those hytecs,,man.....speechless.

Anthony, that is interesting that you mention the growth with the Motleys. Our motley seems to be doing the same thing. My Sharp has been growing rather fast as well.

It might be an effect caused by the mutation, or it might just be in specific bloodlines. Or both.

I know in Retics there are some morphs that don't get as big as others, but are not from dwarf populations. The size is a by-product of the mutation. So I don't think it is unreasonable to say that some morphs in boas might grow faster than others. Spider BPs are notorious for breeding at an early age, just another example.
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I've also heard it reported that hypo arabesques produced from OT stock generally retain more of the pattern than those bred from salmon stock. I've produced neither, so it is only offered as something I've heard from another breeder based on his experience.
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His color has come in much more since this photo was taken, but he certainly kept that Motley "look". I really think it's all a crap shoot personally.

What hypo strain was used to produce that motley?

n/p

With the hypo gene as it applies to pattern, isn't it the case of the red flower and the white flower producing a pink flower, rather than flowers with the color of one or the other parent?
jsc
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