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this is my first post on this forum..hello everyone
I recently purchased a adult female which i had a question about so i probed it and it probed to a debth of about 5/8 "
does this sound like a male?Ihave a question because my for sure male probes deeper .can anyone help me out on this..thanks..Rick

Hi, welcome to the forum.
when you probbed your thayeri did you happen to count the scales? I mark the probe depth with my fingernail then line it up next to the tail and count the scales to see if it is male or female. males generally probe deeper than females.

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Michelle
All things bright and beautiful,
All creatures great and small,
All things wise and wonderful:
The Lord God made them all.

that seems awfully shallow for a male...my GUESS is female

thanks...what is making this hard for me to determine is that this animal probes noticeably less than my male but much deeper than my females...it was sold to me as a female

if this works its the picture of the animal i had difficulty sexing
rick
Link

beautiful girl. I would say female by the tail. What line is she off of?i love the bright red msp's.
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Michelle
All things bright and beautiful,
All creatures great and small,
All things wise and wonderful:
The Lord God made them all.

I was thinking the same, because I have a few mexicana females that have a similar look just be for the tail, where it dramatically thins out.

Two are virgin grey bands and two are thayeri. Do you know what causes that? Is it normal or are they just too fat? I know lizards store fat in their tails so I would assume a fat snake would just have a fat tail.
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"The band is just fantastic, that is really what I think. Oh by the way, which ones pink?"

Do you have pics of these females?
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i'm not over weight i'm under tall

I find that females have a more narrow tail. I beleive it is because they lack the hemipenis's. Please share pic's if you can.
take care,
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Michelle
All things bright and beautiful,
All creatures great and small,
All things wise and wonderful:
The Lord God made them all.

Here's 2 pics that I had, you can see it on each. They are down for the winter so I would have to get them out to take better ones.

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"The band is just fantastic, that is really what I think. Oh by the way, which ones pink?"

Here goes another try

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"The band is just fantastic, that is really what I think. Oh by the way, which ones pink?"

That is an extra supply of fat. Mexicana are prone to it as are some milks. I feed all my mexicana adult mice in the winter to help avoid it.
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i'm not over weight i'm under tall

I have also heard it compared to cellulite for herps. It would be a good idea to consider a "diet" for animals with this kind of buildup... Most often though I have heard it does not seem to greatly impact health, but nobody knows sure enough to make that a promise.

I am in shape, Round is a shape

Lance
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Hopefully they will burn some of it off in hibernation. I dont think their bodies look obese though, which was why I was wondering.
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"The band is just fantastic, that is really what I think. Oh by the way, which ones pink?"

99.9% sure THAT'S a female!!!
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Todd Hughes

She is very nice too, i do notice she is heavier towards the back end was she gravid at this photo? or just has a lot of fat build up? Also what are you feeding her on?
thanks
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Michelle
All things bright and beautiful,
All creatures great and small,
All things wise and wonderful:
The Lord God made them all.

I guess it is just fat, neither was gravid.
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"The band is just fantastic, that is really what I think. Oh by the way, which ones pink?"

Are you feeding them on mice?
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Michelle
All things bright and beautiful,
All creatures great and small,
All things wise and wonderful:
The Lord God made them all.

They are beautiful!
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Michelle
All things bright and beautiful,
All creatures great and small,
All things wise and wonderful:
The Lord God made them all.

i wasnt able to find out what line she came from yet,all i know is that,to me, she is a nice looking MSP