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Ok...so I know that the Enchiferno is an 'enchi' inferno and like when I was getting my hair cut the other day I heard the barber...that's right I said barber...not stylist...say that he too was into ball pythons and he was talking to this guy named Eric about the morphs you have. Anyway...this guy named Eric was babbling about something like fending off a school of deadly parrotfish in the waters of some Carribean island...and doing this from the boat...talented guy...but then suddenly the barber interupts him because it was a pretty lame story anyway and he says wtf makes up the 'Enchiferno'? That's right...'what makes up the 'Enchiferno'. So this Eric guy who was having his afro colored to get rid of the grey...was saying like it was soooo simple to to see what makes up that particular morph. So my question to you is...who is this Eric guy and how does he know that two het for albino balls made up the 'Enchiferno'? Well...after I sat there in the chair and listened to this stuff I said to myself...hey 'self' I have a het for albino male and a normal female so why don't I breed them together to get het enchis. If I do this can I then breed a het enchi to a normal to get the 'Enchiferno'?
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Matt Lerer
'Ghi Reptiles'
Ghi Reptiles

Umm, you seem to have a TON of questions for Kevin, one word.......email.

Dave

I've tried to e-mail him about this and some other questions I had for him but he replied back with something like he didn't understand my ramblings...or something like that. I mean...it's not like my questions aren't legitimate...everyone wants to know what makes up the enchiferno. If it is as simple as het albinos...why is it such a big secret? I actually was able to contact this Eric guy from the barber shop this evening and he said that he breeds a lot of balls but his real job is underwater steerfishing? Or something like that. I thought steer were male deer...oh well...anyway Eric said that yes in fact the enchiferno came from two het albinos...but they looked a little different than regualy het albinos...meaning they didn't have the het albino 'markers'? Is that right? Anyway I hope this Satan guy comes here and helps me with this. Why does he call himself Satan...I mean is he like mean or something? Thanks for the help!
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Matt Lerer
'Ghi Reptiles'
Ghi Reptiles

Matt, I am just yankin your chain man! Hey, if you really want to know, get him drunk, and threaten to cut his hair If the Inferno Ball is not one of the coolest morphs, I am not sure what is, ok, the YB Super Phantom......

Dave

Dave,

Matt already knows what makes all of Kev's little friends genetic make-up. That is the benefit to having sold his soul for great camera skills and awesome Amazons!!
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....I would rather have a Bottle in front of me.....than a Frontal Lobotomy....

Rob Trenor
RK Reptiles
www.rkreptiles.com
www.rkreptiles.net
www.ballpythonmorphs.net

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a steer is a male bovine that was castrated before breeding.

a buck is a male deer. The ones with antlers.

enchiferno.....I would at least say enchi and fire.

the reason Kevin isn't telling is because he doesn't want everyone making them and the bottom dropping out of the price. I do know how to get him to tell though. If you call him and offer him $25k or more and follow through with the deal, I bet he would tell you. But, if that happened, you would not be smart to tell everyone what the ingredients were unless they bought one from you. I can understand Kevin's response to your emails.
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Happy Herping,
Jody Barnes
Royal Kreationz

My snakes aren't fat, they're big boned.

"Umm, you seem to have a TON of questions for Kevin, one word.......email.

Dave"

Haha Dave...it shows how much you know...e mail is two words. I got one word for you...stupidisasstupiddoes...my momma taught that! Oh...my mom's coming I have to go!
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Matt Lerer
'Ghi Reptiles'
Ghi Reptiles

Technically, one letter and one word

Dave

I can't believe that anyone would think that it comes from two het albinos. That just makes no sense. If I had my guess, I would say enchi, woma, yellowbelly. But, someone might think that that makes no sense either.

Even SATAN says "Oh MY GOD" on this one......

I did not answer your email because I do not understand your endless questions... you wear me OUT!!!!!

The ball pythons that created it were two male normals that somehow made a baby...the smaller male carried the spawn for nearly seventeen weeks before spawning the insidious INFERNO....then we use a het albino female that had insane blushing bred to the original Inferno....creating the NEBULA INFERNO ENCHI!

Ok, is that enough information to stick in your mug?????

SATAN

I have a few DOOZIES still left in my hat....

In time, in time..

>>I can't believe that anyone would think that it comes from two het albinos. That just makes no sense. If I had my guess, I would say enchi, woma, yellowbelly. But, someone might think that that makes no sense either.
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"Satan™" is a registered trademark of NERD, Inc. Any copyright infringement is punishable by ETERNAL DAMNATION and some other terrible stuff.

I got the book in the mail today. I absolutely love it. I haven't put it down and have almost finished reading it.

Thanks for the personal message you wrote in it. I wasn't expecting that.

I love all the different spider albinos.
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Happy Herping,
Jody Barnes
Royal Kreationz

My snakes aren't fat, they're big boned.

So this Eric guy was right there is het albino in it! Do the males like turn into females like some fish do? I have heard that groupers are all born males and some turn into females is this right? So the enchiferno came from regular x het albino? What about possible hets? Could the babies possibly be het infernenchi or whateber it is? Infern...no enchinerfo...oh you know what I mean. And my questions aren't dumb...I'm just learning this stuff. And if I give Satan 25,000.00...why would I do that because I can buy a het albino male right now at the pet store by my house for 150.00 and a regular for about 50.00. Maybe Satan should give me like 24,800.00 to keep the secret to myself. Why do they call you Satan?
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Matt Lerer
'Ghi Reptiles'
Ghi Reptiles

IF het albinos were used MY BEST GUESS would be they had some other FREAKY genetics besides/in addition to being het albino..... as far as the two male thing went... one may not have "popped" completely when sexed.... As far as the tight lips go , In this market its best to keep secrets for things dont flood out so fast. I rather wonder than ball morphs to become a disposable pet. In addition there are ALOT of far fetched stories to stir things up ... kind of like when the mechanic told my hunting buddy the flux-capacitor was bad in his car (think of the movie back to the future)... I dont know the whole story... i can only give opinions... and from my experience... when i USED to go to the barber we used to tell some wild stories haha ... thank goodness i shaved my head it keeps me out of trouble lol
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myspace.com/414reptiles

You and Kev definitely got my vote for forum comedians. Bet you guys are hell on wheels when you get together.
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Dale....dgoins222@yahoo.com
www.LibertyReptiles.com

>>Even SATAN says "Oh MY GOD" on this one......
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>>I did not answer your email because I do not understand your endless questions... you wear me OUT!!!!!
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>>The ball pythons that created it were two male normals that somehow made a baby...the smaller male carried the spawn for nearly seventeen weeks before spawning the insidious INFERNO....then we use a het albino female that had insane blushing bred to the original Inferno....creating the NEBULA INFERNO ENCHI!
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>>Ok, is that enough information to stick in your mug?????
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>>SATAN
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>>I have a few DOOZIES still left in my hat....
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>>In time, in time..
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>>>>I can't believe that anyone would think that it comes from two het albinos. That just makes no sense. If I had my guess, I would say enchi, woma, yellowbelly. But, someone might think that that makes no sense either.
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>>"Satan™" is a registered trademark of NERD, Inc. Any copyright infringement is punishable by ETERNAL DAMNATION and some other terrible stuff.

So it was a combination of frog and seahorse genes injected into the egg of the smaller male that made the Inferno?

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Charles Glaspie

Got anything breedin tonight?
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Dale....dgoins222@yahoo.com
www.LibertyReptiles.com

>>Got anything breedin tonight?
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>>Dale....dgoins222@yahoo.com
>>www.LibertyReptiles.com

Hey Dale...I was just about to pair a few up again...How about you..What yah got going?

That pandora thing is still frustrating the crap out me! If he ever finds the right end he might get somewhere though.
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Charles Glaspie

Everybody has been breeding like crazy till this week...a little slow. Gonna leave them together until the cold front gets a little closer...that'll probably do it.
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Dale....dgoins222@yahoo.com
www.LibertyReptiles.com

You guys are laughing but I guarantee that on some forum someone posts that the enchi inferno came from 2 male het albinos.

Silly adorable millionaire playboys. Stop confusing the rubes and go take some pictures of some birds.
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blackrockcaptives.com

Satan,

You seem to know a lot about 'exact sciences' like in your post above. So if you know these types of things like why are you saying that the het albino male bred to a normal male made the enchinerfo ball. I thought you said it was two normal looking animals? I'm really confused so I have some questions...

1 - Is the enchinefro ball really a mutation from two het albinos?

2 - Would you really accept 25,000.00 for the secret...because if you would would I be able to make some kind of payment plans on the secret and do you accept anything in trade. I have a friend named Stacy and she has a large normal female ball python (maybe het enchiferno ball). What would you give me trade value?

3 - I stayed up all night doing as much research as I could and I see that that at one time you said you had a rather large ball you kept in a cage that was something like a 'barcheck' ball or something? You even had a video of it in a baby swing? Kind of silly but I had a friend who liked to put his monitor in the swimming pool. It would swim all over and we would just laugh and laugh...it was the best! Did the barcheck ball have anything to do with the dwarf retics?

4 - Could you please post belly pics of the special balls that made up the enchinerfo ball? Are there any enchinerfo het markers?

5 - I e-mailed you at least 30 times last night to try and get these answers but you didn't reply...is your e mail (see Dave...two words) not working?

6 - I live with my parents...if I make a enchiferno ball can I keep it at your place? It's hard enough for me to keep my Chinese fighting fish so if I have too many pets they might not like it.

Thanks and I hope you can answer some of these questions for me.
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Matt Lerer
'Ghi Reptiles'
Ghi Reptiles

You have got to be kidding me.

Matt,
you can't be serious? are you?!?!?........................if you are wake up, and understand that Kevin is not going to post what makes the inferno.

do you have any friends? have you been to the doctor lately? my suggestion is complete these first, then worry about the inferno.

it's getting old all this rambling and nonsense you keep writing. if you have nothing to do go clean your snakes cages. that should keep you busy for a while.

Pitoon

Satan-

Firstly, I wanted to say congratulations on working with a new ball python morph. I am very new to ball pythons and am looking forward to seeing new landmarks created in this species.

Secondly, I can completely understand why you would want to keep your new morph "under wraps". I imagine that you are quite nervous that the environmental police would come looking to arrest you for breaking the laws of nature by breeding two males together!

Finally, I was wondering how difficult the paperwork required to import animals from Isle Nublar (Island from Jurassic Park) was? As to my knowledege that's the only place where two males could actually create viable offspring!

I wish you good luck in your endeavours and quite enjoy your sense of humor.

Amber
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"it's getting old all this rambling and nonsense you keep writing. "

I must disagree with you. I find it quite entertaining!! lmao

I would keep reading, but now I have to go make sure my aardvark is producing enough sperm plugs to impregnate my entire elephant collection.
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James.....
"Curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought the beast back."

I was actually at the doctor last week and I had a bad case of inferno hemorrhoids. I have two friends...good ones at that...but they aren't answering my calls at the moment...for whatever reason
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Matt Lerer
'Ghi Reptiles'
Ghi Reptiles

use P-H and make sure you put it between your toes

Matt,

EI thought The enchiInferno was made by crossing an Amzon (red phase) x Carpondro x Het Albino Ball... Thats what Satan told me... Maybe he just dosent like you. Anyways if you want i can help you along with this project and sell you a Red Phase Amazon for HALF of the secret price... see how nice i am =)
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Thanks
Jon Dvoretz
Next World Exotics
www.nextworldexotics.com

The Hunters Guide to the Morphs
www.nextworldexotics.com/hg.htm

when you need him? He would understand what this guys ramblin' about! and then maybe even set him straight........
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Jon F

If all it takes to make the infernenchi is two het albinos or a het albino and a normal then it should be a couple of hundred dollar snake. All of this has got me thinking...I mean really thinking...not thinking like before when I had so many things to compare and think about but now like reflective thinking. The ball market is like a giant vortex of patterns and colors...some swirl about and some don't. I think Satan won't respond to my questions because he is worried that someone else will figure out that all it takes to make the enchinerfo is a couple of normal and het albino balls. Even the Eric guy from the barber shop said so. I don't know if he made any yet or if he is keeping it a secret to make the market stay high but I want to make one myself. I ordered a het albino from a breeder today...a male that is about 350 grams...just breeding size for this coming season. This girl I know...her name is Stacy...she has like this really cool looking female ball (maybe het enchiferno?) and if I can breed it to my het albino male we can split the clutch of this morph. BTW...what would be a fare split since I have the het albino male? She doesn't read this forum so whatever you guys think...I won't tell her if it benefits her more than me...dumb girl haha...she is nice though and she smells good. Anyway...if we get like 10 eggs how many would be infernoenchis? Will they look like them right away or will they change into them like the pieds do?

I am also looking for one of these barcheck balls if anyone can tell me where to get one. I know they are not really that much of a good looking ball but if I am going to be making the enchiferno I would like to work with something else also...especially something that stays small. Does anybody know if Satan breeds these? Are there any het markers for the barcheck ball? OK thanks for the help...my mom is yelling and I have to go!
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Matt Lerer
'Ghi Reptiles'
Ghi Reptiles

Matt, thank you for taking the time to stimulate so much informative discussion. I've learned a lot tonight!

I can help you out with a few of your points. The enchiferno looks like a normal when it hatches. It takes about a year to color up, just like pieds.

and you should be nice to girls that smell good.

Chris
www.coilsserpents.com

>If all it takes to make the infernenchi is ... a het albino and a normal then it should be a couple of hundred dollar snake.

From what I've gathered from this discussion, you'd have a better chance of a payoff (and a much bigger payoff) playing the lottery. Good luck.

By the way, I'm too fat to go between your toes.

Paul Hollander

pees don mae funa me im pecial
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