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Zenny asked me if I had any updated pics, so I thought I'd share with everyone...

First up, his shed from this afternoon, still intact and measuring 18 inches...

This little guy refused to sit still, so it took 20 pics to get these 3 good ones...

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~Maggie~

"Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious."
1.1 Cal Kings
1.0 Mali Uromastyx
1.0 Brooksi
0.1 Red Belly Piranha
1.0 Quarter Horse
1.0 Australian Shepherd

looks great!

Thanks!... I can't believe how much he's grown since September...
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~Maggie~

"Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious."
1.1 Cal Kings
1.0 Mali Uromastyx
1.0 Brooksi
0.1 Red Belly Piranha
1.0 Quarter Horse
1.0 Australian Shepherd

cool Maggie... good 2 know he's thriving!

Keep up the good work with that lil guy.

~Z
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Floridana Morphs: Resource Site

Is that 50% Sulfur?
Tom Stevens
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TomsSnakes.com

Is that 50% Sulfur?

Doesn't look like to me it has any sulfur in it Tom. The nice purple makes me think there is a little goini blood in it.

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Bluerosy...who shamelessly takes every opportunity he can to post a picture of his Peabino.

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B

Is that 50% Sulfur?

Doesn't look like to me it has any sulfur in it Tom. The nice purple makes me think there is a little goini blood in it.

roflmao they are from your line rainer! IS there goini in there???
,,,,,,,,,,thomas
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Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

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"The nice purple makes me think there is a little goini blood in it."

Hmmm...as long as you brought it up, It's a beautiful snake but Cal king heritage jumps out at me whenever I see that lavendar. and I still have trouble using the term brooksi on such a low band count animal. So you can imagine what I think of the triple contradiction "sulfur lavendar brooksi" (=pure Lampropeltis getula calisouthfloriHillsborida)
but Pretty !
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Lindsay Pike
Urotopia Uromastyx

Linsey,

Thats an arguement with a double edged sword because there are some lavender cal king x floridana out there. So there is no winning your arguement.

Some reccessive traits in Florida kings effect pattern along with the visual trait. In other words they go hand-in-hand. This is evidenced in hypo and lavender mutations, Have you ever seen a het hypo with no pattern, lines and abberancies like the visual hypos? No you haven't and the same goes with the lavenders. BUT there are many people who bred the lavedner gene from a cal king into the florida kings. So there is why I say it is a double edged sword trying to prove anything.

Now the PB morph does lend some abberancies to the normal hets.So it is not a rule of thumb and not all reccessive traits go "hand-in-hand" with the visual form. The axanthics tend to stay true to a high band count and retain the pattern.
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Bluerosy...who shamelessly takes every opportunity he can to post a picture of his Peabino.

Well I don't know about the 50% but this stock come from Rainer's stock and this snake is from sulphur genetics (as are all his lavenders I believe)

Grand parents were Sulphur Lavender X BHB line Anery

Parents are Lavender (het anery) x Lavender (het anery)

~Z
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Floridana Morphs: Resource Site

Zenny,

1)They couldn't be from my stock because i didn't sell you any sulfur lavenders.

If they are from the sulfur lav x superbrooks line then yes they have goini in them. At least that is my contention on the superbrooks line. The superbrooks lavenders came from the now defunct Southern reptiles co. I have alays advertised them as possibly having some goini in them.

Here is a paragraph from an actual ad that I had saved. This what was written on the ad:

I bred the Sulfur lavender into the Southern Reptiles line of lavender brooks which they called the Lavender Superbrooks. The Super brooks is a lavender and also carries the gene to produce snows. These are very colorful babies. It is my personal belief that Southern Reptiles started this line with some goini (Aplachicola) in the blood. I can't verify this for sure but it may explain why these snakes are so pretty. The company is defunct for a decade so there is no way to verify this. I have not seen any other Superbrooks from Southern Reptiles line around in years so this may be the last of this line around. Either way makes for a beautiful combo when introducing the sulfur gene into this already gorgeous line..

Maybe Zenny can clarify a little more on the snake and what he got from me and what he bred before anyone jumps to conclusions.

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Bluerosy...who shamelessly takes every opportunity he can to post a picture of his Peabino.

I think I was pretty Clear... but lets see if I can get clearer...

I got the Adults I paired (to produce the snake in question) from you.

They are both Lavender het Anery
*** I refer to them as "outcrossed Sulphur Lavenders", you've called them "25% sulphurs" for the past two seasons.

These "25% Sulphurs" are from your pairing of a sulphur lavender male (het anery) to a BHB line Anery Female (het lavender) which resulted in Lavender, anerys, snows, and 2x hets...

you produced these for the 1st time in `04, I purchased a lavender male and a 2x het female from you in `04

in the following year `05, I got another female from you (a Lavender het Anery), same pairing, different year...

Last season `07, I paired the lavenders together and that snake pictured is one the products of that pairing

"the nice purple makes you think there is a little goini blood in it"

Aren't all Lavenders an off shade of purple (or at least appear that way) from time to time? Hence the name "Lavender" Not to mention the snake just came out of a shed...

Hope that Clarifies everything...

pic of the male the day after i got him...

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Floridana Morphs: Resource Site

"This little guy refused to sit still, so it took 20 pics to get these 3 good ones... "

One trick I've picked up is to place him under a small bowl for about 2 minutes. Get the camera ready, already in focus and remove the bowl quickly. This causes the snake to freeze and gives you a couple of moments to get good picks of a still snake.

yeah, i tried that, but with a cheap camera, when you move the bowl it looses focus, and doesn't usually come back till after the snake starts moving... Trust me, 2 of us put a lot of effort into these 3 pictures...
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~Maggie~

"Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious."
1.1 Cal Kings
1.0 Mali Uromastyx
1.0 Brooksi
0.1 Red Belly Piranha
1.0 Quarter Horse
1.0 Australian Shepherd