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Hogg Island tubs?

iant Jan 11, 2008 07:04 PM

Anybody house there hogg island boas in racks? if so what size for adults?

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strictly4fun Jan 11, 2008 07:19 PM

ChrisGilbert Jan 11, 2008 07:38 PM

Yup, I'm with Bob.

There are Hog Island boas, but no such thing as a Hogg Island.

I think that's a name someone decided to use to sell their non-pure boas.

If you do get a Hog Island boa, you'll still want the standard 4' cage for an adult female.
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strictly4fun Jan 11, 2008 07:41 PM

"I think that's a name someone decided to use to sell their non-pure boas."

LMAO

strictly4fun Jan 11, 2008 07:46 PM

on a more serious note, how big does can an adult female bolivian get on the big side of the spectrum?
Bob

ChrisGilbert Jan 11, 2008 07:54 PM

my "female" Blonde Bolivian is just about 6ft. long.

I put female in quotes because I think she is actually a he. Body structure for length and age, and other things as well. I don't have much experience probing and didn't want to try on an adult boa and hurt her. So I'm going to be waiting till after breeding season and see how things go. She's been in with my Orange Crush male and they are going to start their warm up cycle this week.

Bolivians aren't terribly long boas. But they are heavy bodied for their length. I'd say an adult female should be under 7ft. I've seen some that have produced litters at around 5ft.

Here are some pics of her from this summer:


4.5 years old.

For fun some pics of my OC male:


And not to be left out, the newest baby:

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strictly4fun Jan 11, 2008 08:07 PM

that's funny Chris cuz after seeing your low to the grass snake photos I tried it out and I got my current screen saver which looks good real big but not this forum pic but I'll post it anyways and another grass pic of one of my brbs. I hope it turns out to be a female but if it is a male I hope he at least gives you a sperm plug before you put them together

female brb trying to bury her head under the grass

iant Jan 11, 2008 08:04 PM

Appreciate the correction. So females in 4x2 cages. Should the same apply to males or do you have a few more options with cage size and type for them? Lastly what do you look for in a good quality Hog Island?

strictly4fun Jan 11, 2008 09:08 PM

I plan on putting my male bci (don't plan on feeding them much so they will stay on the smaller side) and even my non breeding female brb's in some iris cb110's (40 x 16 x 6) for about 16 bucks plus shipping if you build the rack and route the space for flexwatt and you are doing good. If not check out animal plastics iris cb 70 tub rack but you have to get the tubs but it has everything you need but the tubs and thermostat to run it. The rack is well worth it IMO I think I might end up getting one later on
Bob

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ChrisGilbert Jan 11, 2008 09:09 PM

You can probably use a CB-70 size tub, Sterilite 41qt. are about the same size, for males.

If I was in the market for a Hog Island boa, I'd look for one that was from verifiable pure lines, and in top health. And from a source that I am comfortable doing business with.
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iant Jan 11, 2008 09:20 PM

I just purchased my second rack from Reptile basics and have been very pleased with there products. So lets say I have a few 32qt tubs open. Obviously im not going to try and stick a adult boa in them so I would shoot for younger stock for now. I have noticed that some Hog's seem darker and more speckled then others. Could you recomend a breeder that takes pride in pure Hog boa Lineage. I appriciate the advice.

Ian

ChrisGilbert Jan 11, 2008 09:25 PM

Gus Rentfro of Rio Bravo Reptiles and Vin Russo of Cutting Edge Herpetological have excellent pure stock.

A 32qt. tub should be big enough for up to two years. A small male would probably be fine in one as long as he was given time to exercise outside of it every so often.
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iant Jan 11, 2008 09:27 PM

Very cool. I had come across Rio Bravo's site. very nice boas. thanks again.

Ian

jscrick Jan 11, 2008 09:34 PM

The two Hog Islands in this picture came from Chad Duggin.

The one labeled Intermediate was sold to me as a Hog, but it isn't pure Hogg.

You can't see it in the photo, but those 2 Hogs have a ton of pink on their sides.

This is a male Hog at about a year. Pretty good one. Not as good as Chad's, though.

jsc
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jscrick Jan 11, 2008 09:36 PM

jsc
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TnK Jan 11, 2008 09:52 PM

I like the Classic Speckeld look of the true Sears stock
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Ophidia_Junkie Jan 12, 2008 04:22 AM

I like that "natural" look too. Can't be beat, though I have seen some nice ones with the speckles bred off of them too. LOL



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ChrisGilbert Jan 12, 2008 12:38 PM

Nice Hogs Richard!

I think the best option is to take a nice speckled one like yours and breed it to a nice clean one. That way you get a little of everything in the litter!
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TnK Jan 11, 2008 10:07 PM

Cant convince the European/UK crowd of this.
They have been shown the translations as well as the possible variances of translations,BUT STILL want to call them Hogg's.

Even the proper "Hog" is incorrect,
Cochino = PIG
Cerdo = Hog

>>Yup, I'm with Bob.
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>>There are Hog Island boas, but no such thing as a Hogg Island.
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>>I think that's a name someone decided to use to sell their non-pure boas.
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>>If you do get a Hog Island boa, you'll still want the standard 4' cage for an adult female.
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>>http://www.GilbertBoas.com/
>>http://www.BoaList.com/
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TnK

ChrisGilbert Jan 11, 2008 10:16 PM

Maybe the Spaniards messed up, lol. Just messing around here.

Who wants a Pig Island boa anyway?

There are some shots of boas on the islands here:
http://www.cayoscochinos.org/index.php?page=index&lang=eng
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