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2nd '07 Keeper ATB

kathylove Jan 11, 2008 09:37 PM

This male is the only other baby I plan to keep from the first litter. However, a 2nd litter was just born (same dad, different mom). There is one nice red / orange baby in the 2nd litter that I may keep. The others are all yellows with a lot of dark markings - don't think I will keep those.

Replies (6)

DIESELMACK Jan 12, 2008 05:43 AM

very nice! love it!

Ghireptiles Jan 13, 2008 09:56 PM

Wow Kathy...that guy is a ripper! He's a keeper for sure and I hope the other is a female from the second litter!
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Matt Lerer
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Snakesunlimited1 Jan 14, 2008 08:44 PM

Sweet looking ATB Kathy!! This one looks like my male did as a baby. Are these the same animals that produced the nice babies you had at the NARBC Chicago 2 years ago?? I really should have picked one up then.

Jason

kathylove Jan 15, 2008 10:53 AM

looks a lot like the parents from a couple of years ago, that pair did not produce this year. Both parents of this one are red, with a fair amount of back patterning.

Here is a photo of dad (mom looks similar, but with more black pattern):

Thanks for the comments, everyone! I sure do like these colorful little tree boas!

Mike H. Jan 16, 2008 12:41 AM

>>Thanks for the comments, everyone! I sure do like these colorful little tree boas!

After almost 10 years of corn breeding, I got out of them almost completely in '07. The only thing I kept was a trio of those Aztec/Zigzag Okeetees I've been working on all these years.

ATB's were the first species I ever bred and it's been quite a fun ride to say the least. It's probably been more than 15-16 years for me now (I kept literally NO records in the beginning, so I don't know for sure what year I started.) I have decided to keep only ATBs from now on. I used to focus on patternless yellows, but now I am keeping a nice varied assortment of colors and patterns (even 5 garden phases). My joy is in keeping/photographing, and a little bit of breeding.

I know you've accomplished a lot in the corn world, but I must say, it's nice to see you working with ATBs
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kathylove Jan 16, 2008 01:53 PM

are finally getting a little recognition for being more than just cheap, imported, disposable pets. If you are going to concentrate exclusively on them, that will help. Too often in the past, they have been a sideline for people who really liked emeralds much better and just kept a few ATBs as well. I think when serious people such as you and Matt and others highlight them, people begin to take notice and value them more.

I actually started breeding ATBs back in the late '80s I think we produced or first yellow babies in '88), a couple of years after getting serious with a lot of colubrid breeding. We also worked with quite a few colorful tree vipers, and a few other arboreal snakes. But when we started Glades Herp in 1990 (end of '89, actually), we starting thinning out the specialty projects because we relied on employees to care for them. By around 1992 or so, I think we were thinning out the rest of the ATBs and the few chondros and tree vipers that were left, and concentrated on colubrids after that. I have really missed the ATBs and eyelash vipers ever since. So I got a few Amazons about 3 years ago (one of these days maybe some more eyelash, too!) and realize now I NEVER should have given them up!

I am only keeping 2.3 yellow and / or red adults right now, but I can see that expanding a lot. Considering how few have been selectively bred for multiple generations, can you imagine what secret genes are probably hidden in animals we all probably already have in our collections? Just waiting to be discovered? It is pretty exciting! And unlike corns, they fit in so well with beautifully planted vivs, not squishing or uprooting plants like my corns do. Can you imagine how appealing it would be to see a booth set up at an expo with gorgeous c.b. Amazons set up in the same ways that some breeders choose for their prized emeralds and chondros?

Yes, I think it is time for the Amazons to shine!

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