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I got a new big female yesterday and was so excited about how light she was i decided to put my pastel male in with her. I know this isnt great husbandry practice, but I skipped the whole acclimation period and to my suprise they were locked up and have been all day.She is very tame and has been used to alot of attention. I think this will really help her from getting too stressed out from the change.My question is.... Is it very likely she could become gravid? Or Do you think the chances are slim because of the new surroundings ect. I know I will probably get drug through the dirt for skipping the acclimation period, but I checked her very thorough for mites and any other possible problems. The main reason I put them together is because the breeding season is coming to an end and I thought what the heck.

You do know that the breeding season is pretty flexible? You can essentially breed all year. Even folks in an actual 'season' can keep breeding until June or July!

In any case, yes, she can become gravid. If she's fat and healthy, and you keep putting them together, there's a good chance for it. If you're skipping quarantine, just keep her like you would one of your snakes and treat her the same way.

It's your snakes, but I personally would quarantine for a while. You can't see IBD in a visual inspection, and without at least a month (or three) of quarantine, there's no way to know what the snake has or hasn't been exposed to. It's not just mites!

Just my opinion, though.

~jenny
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there was actually a breeding season. I better start panicking and risking all of my snakes lives and buy some more males to hurry and be able to breed all of our females since the breeding season is almost over.
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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles

Various Ball Pythons, boas, dogs, cats, fish, an amel tiger retic female, a couple sulcatas and a few other odds and ends.

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

I knew I was going to catch flack for this. Thanks for doing it in such a tackless way.

tactless is comming onto a public forum where most people here actually care about their animals and stating that you don't care whether or not you risk the life of your animal just to produce more of them. Now if you would have came on here and stated you were thinking about doing it and asked for opinions and if you didn't know any better than I would have responded a little differently, but you didn't so neither did I. I value the life of each and every animal we own and wouldn't do anything to risk any of them (including normal males that are rescues). If you want to be treated with respect from me, show your animals some.
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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles

Various Ball Pythons, boas, dogs, cats, fish, an amel tiger retic female, a couple sulcatas and a few other odds and ends.

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

that she does not care for her animals, nor does your jumping down her throat prove you care more for yours, as your reply heavily infers. maybe she got that snake from a very reputable breeder, the shipping or pickup was a breeze, and there its very unlikely to have medical issues. of course i may be wrong, but we dont have those details, nor does she have to give them.

i have gotten animals from reputable breeders, looked them over and introduced them into my snake room immediately, and hell, i could care less if you find me reckless for that; and though i doubt others would easily admit it, i bet most have done exactly the same. i constantly see posts here saying "look at this axanthic (or whatever), i just got from so and so, and here's a shot of it next to one of my normals for comparison" - they never get tweaked by others, but this person sounded young or naive, or whatever, and an easy target. no, putting animals together immediately ts not as brilliant or optimal as quarantine, but for anyone to assume everyone else must follow the same practices, procedures, rules, is why this forum so often turns into the "i do ball pythons so much better than you" forum.

i'm all for criticism when the facts point to it being needed, but constructive criticism seemed called for in this case, as too many facts are not known.

to answer the question, anything that is sexually mature, that mates be it once or a hundred times cannot get pregnant, whether stressed or not - though stress would reduce the chances, not eliminate them.

to answer the question, anything that is sexually mature, that mates be it once or a hundred times CAN get pregnant, whether stressed or not - though stress would reduce the chances, not eliminate them.

Thats the kind of answer I was looking for. I did get the girl from a friend that I have known for a while now, and he took excellent care of her. And as far as Josh's remark about the "season". I know there's not an actual season here since they are not native, but we DO simmulate a season with the whole braumation period. This braumation period is necessary for the males to produce sperm and the females folicle development.....right? So since I have started to raise my temps back up it IS coming close to the end of the season for me.

There is much debate whether temp changes are needed for successful breeding to take place. I know of some breeders that drop temps down to almost 70 and some that don't drop temps at all. Both groups of people have success. We drop temps a little but not much, just enough to get the males interested and we have about an 80% success rate.

now as far as me assuming and jumping on you there is a reason. First you didn't specify that you got the snake from a friend and that you knew that the animal was clean to begin with. You actually stated you were concerned but chose not to quarantine your new animal so I assumed the worst since we do see that alot on here. I do wish you the best of luck with your new animal and have a great season.
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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles

Various Ball Pythons, boas, dogs, cats, fish, an amel tiger retic female, a couple sulcatas and a few other odds and ends.

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

Is it really necessary to go out of your way to critisize someone because they didnt include your menu of details? I think youre better than that Josh. I think youre perfectly capable of responding with less judgment. We should be alot more patient with each other. Its important to be kind when you dont know the details otherwise you hurt your own reputation. We need to further develop a passion for this hobby in the reptile community not break it down with arrogance. You make more friends that way.
Be the example Josh. Lets not forget the big picture. Its too easy to hide behind rudness when there is no other identification provided but a username. Thats not dignified at all.

Brendan

Without sounding too judgmental - it's not an "acclamation" period - it's quarantine. The acclamation period is the time in which it takes the snake to settle into it's new home - which is for most balls a matter of a few hours. The quarantine period is the time it takes to make sure the snake is not going to contaminate or kill off your entire collection.

Now given that you have received a relatively healthy new addition - if you keep pairing them up then it's as likely she will become gravid as any other snake - from what I understand - if there were going to be an breeding issue so close to shipping/moving then it would be that she wouldn't breed at all.

Good luck!
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Tosha
JET Pythons