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Albino emory ratsnake, SE Kansas line, not outcrossed to other localities

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KJUN Snakehaven

Chocolate Emoryi, Darker in real life (inside lighting - sorry), pattern has typical split blotches
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KJUN Snakehaven

>>Chocolate Emoryi, Darker in real life (inside lighting - sorry), pattern has typical split blotches

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KJUN Snakehaven

Albino Chocolate Emory, female, 1 of 2 ever produced, large subadult

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KJUN Snakehaven

Hypo Emoryi, Type A, also called the "ghost" Emory

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KJUN Snakehaven

Intermontane ratsnake, my personal FAVORITE, young adult female, pattern will continue to fade with age. Can grey get any better in a snake?

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KJUN Snakehaven

Striped Emoryi, South Texas line, only one PROVEN inheritable to date

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KJUN Snakehaven

I'm on it KJUN! Hopefully my bad boy does the trick!He has four females lined up from Nueces county as well as the female that came with him! I like what you have done with all these snakes!
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Todd Hughes

>>I'm on it KJUN! Hopefully my bad boy does the trick!He has four females lined up from Nueces county as well as the female that came with him! I like what you have done with all these snakes!
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>>Todd Hughes

Fingers crossed for the bad boy, Todd!

-Toby
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The Ratsnake Foundation

Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research

>>I'm on it KJUN! Hopefully my bad boy does the trick!He has four females lined up from Nueces county as well as the female that came with him! I like what you have done with all these snakes!
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>>Todd Hughes

Good luck. I've known of three lines tested, and 2 fizzed out. That's excluding the variable look of Brazos Island ratsnakes, of course, which are not truly a "wide stripe" - nor are they apparently reproducible in ANY predictable manner. Too bad. If the Cherry line would have been reproducible, I'd have produced an albino wide striped 4-5 years ago....lol. Email me when you get possible hets. I might be interested in getting a male from you (or sending a female to you in 2 years after I raise up some hets here) to raise up and test against this line. It'd be neat to know if they are the same line if you can reproduce yours. Not that it matters since neither of our lines are likely to be simple recessive even if inheritable. This one doesn't seem to be, but I'm not done testing quite yet. Actually, I don't care if it is or is not - as long as at least someone can produce more of them!

KJ
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KJUN Snakehaven

That's the hope here, KJ! I only have two "projects" to work this year, everything else is straight down the locality line.
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Todd Hughes

>>Striped Emoryi, South Texas line, only one PROVEN inheritable to date
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>> KJUN Snakehaven

This one is definately my favorite - very nice! Of course, I am very partial to meahllmorum...

-Toby
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The Ratsnake Foundation

Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research

KJ, can you throw a pic up of the full body shot?
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Todd Hughes

I really like those too. Too bad we can't keep those here in Utah...it's always so funny to me that you can have a plethora of a snake species in captivity, as long as you're outside of the animal's native state.

Soderberg had a really pretty intermontana in Kathy's book, and I remember that Don had his entire emoryi collection for sale a while back...did you pic those up and do you have that snake in Kathy's book? (From your pics, I'm guessing you did. )

DR
Suboc.com

Does Utah prevent you, without a special permit, from having Emory on the species or subspecies level?

Yes, I bought 72 Emory ratsnakes from Don when he called and offered them to me some years ago. I still have some of those, and some of them I've since produced or got from other sources. The intermontane are soley from that line, but i've got a new locality hopefully coming this year.

KJ
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KJUN Snakehaven

Kind of makes a person sick that he has so many nice emoryi morphs huh? I agree with KJ's earlier post, the intermontane that I got from him are my favorite. They really change looks alot, they get lighter and lighter every shed...gorgeous animals.

It still remains a mystery that this species is not more popular, all mine are calm, eat well, really robust as hatchlings, now there are morphs, what is not to like.

Good luck with your projects!

Like many animals from isolated populations, intermontana are really interesting...been breeding my CO locale guys for a few years now. -Scott

>>Like many animals from isolated populations, intermontana are really interesting...been breeding my CO locale guys for a few years now. -Scott
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Which line is that CO stock?
KJ
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KJUN Snakehaven

This is a male I got from KJ a while back. Not sure which are prettier, the really dark ones like the one pictured or the more chocolaty milk colored ones he has, both phases are great looking snakes

Good stuff...
I do have a complaint..
The Kisatchies I got from you are pigs; eating me out of house and home.
And they keep growing too!
I had to put them into winter storage to get a break from feeding them!
They remind me of baby Eastern Fox Snakes.
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Regards, Bill McGighan

Funny! My wife says they same dang thing every time she feeds the ones we kept for ourselves. She calls them the "dang hosses!" I assume they are growing fast, too, eh? Glad to hear it, Bill! Without a doubt, they outgrow our "regular" cornsnakes by a country mile.

Good to hear from you again,
KJ

>>Good stuff...
>>I do have a complaint..
>>The Kisatchies I got from you are pigs; eating me out of house and home.
>>And they keep growing too!
>>I had to put them into winter storage to get a break from feeding them!
>>They remind me of baby Eastern Fox Snakes.
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>>Regards, Bill McGighan
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KJUN Snakehaven