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To find Milksnakes in oklahoma or Kanssas?

Can prarie rattlesnakes be found in the same areas as milksnakes?

Blake,
So you are here now trying to find triangulum in Oklahoma and Kansas and over on the other forum trying to find out the best places to search for alterna and lepidus......sounds like you just need get ahold of some good field guides. Start there and then sit at your computer and search through all the archives (milksnake/grayband forums) you can over the next several months.
Nathan Wells

Agreed Blake, you have to do your homework before you get to the fieldwork! Some may even start to suspect you might be a commercial collector looking for people to give up their spots. Do some reading at the library or search the web for locality maps.

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Todd Hughes

Na not a collecter. And ill do some more reaserch

Blake,
Your getting good advice now from some highly respected feild herpers. I like learning from these guys too. Take there advice.

Good herping spots can take a lot of time to find and develop, driving and looking for good looking habitat, building relationships w/ landowners, searching maps for good public access, and even after all this work, you work over a nice looking hillside and you don't find a herp, so you keep going back to this spot because it looks good. This may take many days/weeks of hard herping to prove your on to a good spot, and when you do prove the spot holds the target animal your looking for, you may not be interested in giving up all your hard earned information to the first person that asks you where to find milksnakes.
I'm a fishing guide here in Montana and you should see how closed lipped fishermen are about there spots they fish. I've seen fist fights over a good spot. Really.

So, w/ all this food for thought I'll leave you w/ one more recommendation: Brian Hubbs's book Mountain Kings. He has great photos of habitat that Mountain Kings live in, which will cross over to milksnakes to a large degree.

-Dell

Annulata, right? I thought maybe Celaenops. Either way, what a great looking animal.

-Dell

that's me pride 'n joy male anulatta! I have been looking for a nice female for him for a while, I am about to let him make some generics or non locality kids! I really don't want any het for whatevers, just nice animals with a leetle tangerine! LOL!
This big guy is one from around here, Jim Wells county, Texas that needs a hookup too!

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Todd Hughes

Blake...

It isn't that easy. Why would people who have worked hard to accumulate herping spots just tell you where they are? Sorry, but you need to start with a field guide...I suggest Collins (1992) "Amphibians and Reptiles in Kansas"...and Webb's "Reptiles of OK"...or the Sievert's new book.

Thanks for all the respomses amd i cant wait to hit West Texas and mabyer find a milksnake around my house in oklahoma!