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Here are the pics Shawn sent. The quality isn't the best but from what I can see, they don't look like any of the anerys (baby or adult) that I've seen. So, are there two different snakes in the pics? One kind of looks a little darker than the other. Neither look as dark as my anery. It's hard to tell exactly what color they are from the pictures. In some areas they look a little rosy, in others, gray. Very unusual looking snakes. What was their background again? Siblings? Were there more like this in the clutch? Please keep us posted. Best of luck with your gravid female. Watch out for Dave, he has a way of making sure any and all genes of any new lineage of any odd looking BRBs end up in his wicked hands. I think it's all part of his plan to take over the world

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Mike Lockwood
www.tooscaley.com

Horrible pics i know!Would have helped if i cleaned first also!LOL I will try get better pics of them.As far as background tec the guy i got them from has no clue anymore where he got them.And yes there are 2 diff snakes there they are both maroon with carmel markings and no black soooo i guess time will tell!

Thanks for posting those Mike!

In the pics, the crescents look pretty much black. In person there simply is no black. Hopefully Shawn will get some better pics, but I think it will be hard to get a true color representation from any pic. Get on it Shawn!!! LOL, later

Posted new pics but dam they are still dark i can't take picturs wortha !!!LOL

I would offer to help, but my pic skills are lacking as well. Here's a pic to show the extent of my skills, sorry it's not a Rainbow.

Always like those bright pink DUM'S think i may buy like 1.3 this yr sooooo get the breeding busy!!

They're back in business, so hopefully I'll have a few more litters this season.

Hypos would be nice!

Hey still gonna start a rat colony i have them coming out my !!! none of the balls are eating right now.So need to sell some off!

hypo dumerils?? or hypo BRBs
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-Stephen-

0.1 soon to be wifey (hopefully)
1.0 rotwiler/chow (Boomer-wifey's pooch)
1.0 norm corn (Jake aka grumpy old terdhead)
0.1 col redtail boa (Dixie-my baby girl)
0.1 ball python (Bella- wifey's baby girl)

hopeful for not to distant future:
--brazillian rainbow boas 1 female for sure
2 or 3? maybe a breeding pair?

more distant future hopefuls
1 or 2 of each maybe a breeding pair?
--anery boa (ooooh)
--jungle carpet python (love to have 1 or 2)
--dumeril boa (ahhhh)

slightly more wishful thinking
--hypo br rainbow boa (love em)
--anery br rainbow boa (oooh even better!!)
--motely boa (gorgeous!!)

Hypo DUM's he produced on a few yrs back but it died would like to see some live ones

ohhh awesome i havent seen anything on hypo dumerils didnt know if there where any at all
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-Stephen-

0.1 soon to be wifey (hopefully)
1.0 rotwiler/chow (Boomer-wifey's pooch)
1.0 norm corn (Jake aka grumpy old terdhead)
0.1 col redtail boa (Dixie-my baby girl)
0.1 ball python (Bella- wifey's baby girl)

hopeful for not to distant future:
--brazillian rainbow boas 1 female for sure
2 or 3? maybe a breeding pair?

more distant future hopefuls
1 or 2 of each maybe a breeding pair?
--anery boa (ooooh)
--jungle carpet python (love to have 1 or 2)
--dumeril boa (ahhhh)

slightly more wishful thinking
--hypo br rainbow boa (love em)
--anery br rainbow boa (oooh even better!!)
--motely boa (gorgeous!!)

There is on posted in the classified other boas!Atleast last time i looke today there was lol

It's his first season breeding, so hopefully that goes well. To back him up, I'll do some of the original pairings from offspring of a female I have that produced the hypo Kevin Hanley produced a while back. The last time I did that breeding, I did produce a hypo, but it had a fairly severe kink just below the head, and it died. I took some time off the Dumerils, simply because I was getting a lot more babies than I could sell. Figured I might as well start breeding them again if I'm going to spend the time and money on them. The 2 females up now, look very similar, but none of mine have/had that severe of a pattern anamoly. Definitely not as strong at this point as the hypo BRBs. Take care

There are hypo Dums, I saw them at the San Jose show, pretty cool looking!!!

I believe they are in the ads right now.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Hypo BRB would be nice also

Interesting looking pair, could this possibly be a cross? Maybe with a CRB? That is just what it reminds me of, anyway.
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Aubrey Ross

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www.SlipstreamSerpents.com

Well i hope not becouse when i got them they pretty much looked like brazilians,sold as brazilians but color has faded with time

Aubrey has a good point. The color really does remind me of Columbians. Also, the animals look a little smaller that breeder-sized Brazilians. How big / old are they? One more thing - On Jeff's website, he notes that Brazilians have 47-51 rows of scales midbody. I don't know what the scale count is on Columbians but a count from your animals would be intersting. O.K, sorry, one last thing - If they're hybrids what does everyone tink the babies will look like? Will they look like mom and dad? Will they look more like one subspecies that the other? Will the clutch contain a mix of "Brazilians", "Columbians", and "Other"

Going back to the seller / breeder and pumping for as much info as you can might also help. Sometimes, no information at all speaks volumes.

Still wishing the best,
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Mike Lockwood
www.tooscaley.com

the female is about 5.5-6ft and the male is about4.5-5ft.Scale count is good for a brazilian but then again i don't really know much about columbians!Well the male has bred this female and a normal female so i guess it is all a waiting game but i got them around the 1yr old mark and like i said they deff looked brazilian minus having any black and just have changed to this over the years so we shall see!

If they are a cross, then to me it would make sense that the color faded with time. Baby CRBs have a distinct pattern that almost fades completely to adults. Having Brazilian in the blood would seem to hold the pattern around.

Who knows, though... it's just a thought. They are very nice looking whatever they are, lol.
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Aubrey Ross

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www.SlipstreamSerpents.com

So anyway i will hang tight and see what happens and keep everyone posted.By the way this is my first year breeding brazilians and i can't seem to find estimated days to lay after shed?Anyone is it the same as typical boa's

We've been working on that, my average last year was 132 with a range of 125 - 135 at 80ish degrees. Mike was a bit warmer and had a little faster gestation times. Don't remember off the top of my head what his numbers were.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

>>We've been working on that, my average last year was 132 with a range of 125 - 135 at 80ish degrees. Mike was a bit warmer and had a little faster gestation times. Don't remember off the top of my head what his numbers were.
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>>Thanks,
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>>Dave Colling
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>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
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>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
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>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>26.49 BRB
>>20.21 BCI
>>And those are only the breeders
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>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Well lets take a look at the BRB stat sheet ..
Check it out in my sig!!
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Jason A.
"Long time Herper, first year Breeder `07."
My 2008 Care Sheet & The BRB Stats. Username: brb@kingsnake.com

Just sent you some updates...
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Will take alook at this when i get home can't download at work!

OK Thanks