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My teacher has a VERY friendly corn snake that is perfect for being handeled by students, but the question came up between me and my friends the other day as to what color she might be. She almost looks like an okatee, accept she has a more yellow orange than a red orange, and her black bands around her blotches are barely visible, and I'd say that they look more brown that black. She also has a yellow underside. Sorry I couldn't post a picture, but my teacher's in the classroom all of the time so none of us can take a picture when he's not looking.

Are you asking us to ID the snake? If so, sounds like a normal corn. My wc female has very thin black borders and is a lighter red/orange than Okeetee corns and her ground coloration...heck, here is a poor pic of her, look anything close to your's.

Her belly is an off white with tons of checks. Is your teacher's snakes belly unifomly yellow lacking any other color or pattern or is it just yellow with checks?

Yes I was asking you to ID the snake, sorry I wasn't being clearer.

My teacher's snake's belly is yellow with checks, and it looks like the one in the photo accept that it is more orange, and the black around the blotches is more faded. Though I have a feeling it is probably normal.

It can be extremely dificult to identify snakes from people's discriptions, but it sort of sounds you might be discribing what's known as a "hypo"(hypomelanistic) cornsnake, or even a caramel. Really dificult to say, but here is a website you should take a look at to see what it might look like.

*** http://www.vmsherp.com/ViewCornsnakes.htm

Another question though,....how come he won't let you take a picture of it to get an identification?. Another question is does the teacher even know what morph(if any) he has?.....it sort of seems like he would have mentioned what kind it was to his class if he knew. Or maybe he just doesn't care one way, or the other.

There's a bunch of people here with just about every type of corn there is, so maybe some others will chime in with some possibilities for you to look at as well.

~Doug

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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

The website wouldn't load on my computer for some reason, but I managed to locate a picture that looks just like my teacher's corn snake.

http://mrskingsbioweb.com/images/DSCN0342.jpg

The reason I can't have a photo of the snake is because we're not allowed to have cameras (or cell phones) on school property unless its for yearbook.

I have asked the teacher if they could somehow print or email me a picture of the snake before (it was for a report I had to do) and they always forgot. So I was pretty certain that I couldn't get one this time. I have to say though he'd be interested in what kind of snake he has, I think its more the students who want to know.

Thanks for the Help

Well, I suppose if you REALLY stretched the term hypo, some might consider the one pictured to perhaps be one, but it still looks to have a little too much melanin to be one in my opinion. That's too bad you can't get a quality shot of the actual animal, then we could absolutely tell you what it was.

Keep hounding the "teach" until he get's so aggravated with you asking, he will do anything to shut you up!..LOL!.........
hopefully, this will include a nice quality shot of his snake..LOL! use some psychology on the dude!

good luck, ~Doug

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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

I'll try to get a photo of the actual snake. I might just be able to bring the yearbook camera into the room and take a quick picture while I'm taking photos of the class.

By the way, your miami looks very nice. (I'm a big fan of them.)

Thanks for the compliment!,....It was a wild-caught female Miami Corn that was captured in Broward County, just north of Miami/Dade, County. She is one of the nicest examples I have EVER seen to date.

That would be nice to see a pic of your teacher's animal!

best regards, ~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Am I the only one that thinks that it should be respected that this is someone elses animal who might not want pictures of it all over the internet, especially if it is in his classroom? Most likely its just a normal cornsnake, as far as education goes that would be the only appropriate kind because it is the only natural variation.

I just think it would be weird for someone to ask me for pictures of my pets so they could independently look up information about it. It doesn't seem to be a matter of educating, because science teacher wouldn't be educating their students about corn snake breeds, only about the snake in the wild.
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1.1 Ghost corns, 1.1 Butter het. stripe corns, 0.1 normal corn
1.1 Tremper Albino Leopard Geckos
1.0 Super dalmation crested, 1.1 Pinstripe crested, 2.1.1 Misc crested
1.0 Ghost Bull, 0.1 Snow bull

You're probably right. I guess the cornsnake's coloration should just remain a mystery unless my teacher decides that he wants to go and find out himself.

>>>Am I the only one that thinks that it should be respected that this is someone elses animal who might not want pictures of it all over the internet, especially if it is in his classroom? Most likely its just a normal cornsnake, as far as education goes that would be the only appropriate kind because it is the only natural variation.

Well, of course that's a possibility, but if he DOES get permission once he has the camera in hand, there certainly wouldn't be anything wrong with it. In anycase, it's not like it's a naked picture of his wife or anything..LOL! it is just a pic of a cornsnake, and could be any cornsnake in the entire world. The teacher himself probably couldn't tell the difference between his, and thousands of others even if he was to see it posted himself, which is HIGHLY unlikely.

And the snake doesn't necessarily HAVE to be a normal phenotype either, especially if he's exposing the class to inheritable genetics. The cornsnake would surely be more interesting than just reading about some boring everyday fruit flies and a Punnett square. In any case, if I was the teacher, I would WANT to know what the heck I was showing my class, normal or otherwise. Maybe the teacher couldn't give a rat's behind about knowing what type it is too, but it certainly isn't like the guy is plastering embarrasing photos all over the net.

This is just my opinion, and don't think it's a big deal at all either way......... My naked wife, or girlfriend might be a different story though!.LOL!

best regards, ~Doug

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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"