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First off, I don't keep herps anymore and have only kept one boid (Burmese python) in my life. So, this proposed ban won't directly impact me in the lease. Perhaps I shouldn't care. The problem is that it didn't start here and it wont stop here.

The anti-pet lobby is attacking us piece by piece and counting on our internal differences to prevent us from uniting. So far, they've been largely correct. I just read the following comment on another reptile forum:

How many boa/burm/ball python people supported the keepers of native species when their rights were threatened and/or removed? It's a given if you keep both, but I've heard "I don't care about corns and kings, only snakes that I can breed and make good money off of" at reptile shows.

It may be some people's battle, but I'm not sure if it's mine anymore.

The sad thing is, this is a common reaction. We need to change this narrow mindset and unite to defend our mutual interest.

Brother, it unfortunately took me a long time to understand what " A house divided among itself cannot stand, really meant. " However, " The Powers That Be, " have been taking all of our civil liberties away, one by one and it is a means to an end to them. The NWO is coming wether we like it or not and a year from now, the sky will show us our ultimate demise. I try to the best of my ability to have faith that we will all put our Ego's and Pride and differences aside and start doing things to benefit the whole, instead of the one. In the end, it seems without an outside influence; " we will regretably probably never do that. " Through false propoganda and the dumming of the human mind and the boxes that we have made for ourselves, there may be no repreve from what is to come in the very near future. I hope, Brother do I hope; " That i am wrong. " This goes so much bigger than just a band on our Reptiles. This is one of many Bands that will result in the ultimate Band of our rights to be anything more than a slave. May something out there in this Universe; " grant us with a spiritual enlightenment that will forever finally bring us to the true meaning of life and unity. " I wish that I would have known years ago as a dumb kid, the things that I know now. Sometimes though; " I wish I did not know some of the things that I know now, because there is truly a certain bliss to ignorance. " May we stand, will we stand? The future will tell the story, but the future and what our division will hold for us, is close at hand..........John Johnson

Slaves indeed.
The larger picture is a very scary one.
Sprockets are only of value to a machine, if they are doing what the machine needs; what the sprocket needs is inconsequential.
Ask yourself, just what is it going to cost to come to an agreement?
Now, that's scary...

jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

John, You have fore-sight. I only wish the rest in this huge powerful industry shared the same. I have only been on Kingsnake some 10 years but what I have seen over time is a reluctancy for the powers that be in this industry to take self and Ego/Pride out of the picture, just long enough to SAVE this ship!
There has been much talk over the years but what is still continuing to happen is people start promoting their particular petitions...websites....Or their Organization or club, that is supposed to be our salvation to this industry. What this has done is added fuel to the fire for our DIVISIONS.

What is wrong with ONE NATIONAL ORGANIZATION????

Please read on...

As a whole I ask you:

Is it only because it may cost you instead of making you money?

Colubrid people against the Ball people....Ball people against the Boa people.....
All the breeder people against the Import people....

WHY????

Please people....You must UNITE!!!

I KNOW that UNITY has POWER!!!!

I have read posts where they write snake people are better than dog people...why not mess with them...the dog people? Give me a break....They are and do mess with them!

The agenda of the animal rights groups is to take....YES take your rights to keep, or breed animals....ALL animals!!!

No matter at what level. That is their agenda!
I am not talking about the pawns they use to do their work...I am talking about the heads behind the organizations....then it trickles down.

Imagine if the industry UNITED as a WHOLE....Where all animal groups came together. How about including those who are also in this ame fight under the same attacks we are....the Hunters, Trappers, and fishermen, Farmers??

They suffer the same situation as we do....animal rights groups making proposals to take our rights to do what we love to do away!!

People, if you turn your head away from what I am writing and shake your head in dis-belief at what I am saying...the battle for you never even began...you just forfited your rights away.

Belive me...they will not stop....they are taking this one step at a time...each proposal is planned...they have an agenda.

I ask you NOW...

Unite and Fight.

No truer saying has ever been made:

UNITED WE STAND - DIVIDED WE FALL.

I will do whatever I can to help, please do the same.

Andy Federico
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I'm just starting to look into this organization and I think it is the type of national group you are saying we need. I'm not a member yet but will probably join soon. I'm just hesitant because I have some complaints about the dog and cat trade. In the end, I'll probably realize that I have to swallow that prejudice and join up with the only well established national organization with political clout that seems to be interested in helping us.