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I have a pair of 07 subocs. I have had them for about 2 weeks, and they have no interest in food at all. I keep them seperatly in small plastic garment box well ventilated with about 12in. of 1 in. pvc to hide in. Water is always available. I also use newspaper. Temps average around 70 at night and around 78 during the day in my snake room. I do not mess with them at all, and have not since I got them. Have tried both live and dead.
Do I need anitional heat(heat tape) and a temp gradiant?
Any advice would be great!
Thanks in advance

>> Do I need anitional heat(heat tape) and a temp gradiant?

You'll want a heat gradient with the room temp on the "cooler" end and up to about 85 on the warm end. This should be the temperature of the exact surface that the snake rests on (i.e., the floor of the cage on top of the substrate), so a temp gun would be handy.

Baby subocs are excellent little mousers as captives, though a new move will sometimes make them shy at first.

All else sounds good to me. Good luck with the little guys. They sure are cute.

DR
Suboc.com

I feed mine inside an empty paper coffee container or something larger, as long as it's opaque (I stay away from anything plastic or styrofoam).
They just seem to prefer a dark place to eat. My adults are the same way (large shoeboxes). They're about 4mos. old now, but all started on live pinks for the first few feedings before getting them on larger df prey.

Mike

The 07's that I hatched are kept on paper towels in 12 cup plastic containers that are well ventilated and the room temp is about 75.No supplimental heat and they are feeding very well on frozen thawed fuzzies from the "cage floor".Just works for me.
Mike Mitstifer

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Besides possibly warmer high end as Dusty mentioned alol I can say is give them dark, quiet, and if possible in their normal enclosure.

Of my three subocs 2 are extremely shy eaters(only seen feed a couple times) and the third is slightly shy. In general my subocs will only eat when the snakeroom is dark and quiet and they are in their normal enclosure. The new environment of a feeding container, or the light/noise seem to agitate or make them nervous to the point they won't eat.

Also mine definitely preffer smaller live food. While they have irregularly been willing to eat normal(for most snakes) sized prey and thawed prey I have yet to get any of them to consistently take either.

You might try, if you aren't already, using paper substrate so you can leave the food in the enclosure with them without risking impaction from swallowed substrate.

Sean.
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