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Letter to the feds

natsamjosh Feb 07, 2008 04:33 PM

All,

Just wanted to post a copy of the letter I submitted to the government. Feel free to paraphrase, ignore, ridicule or copy verbatim if you want to. Submitting feedback might be peeing in the wind for all I know, but for anyone doubting what Jeff said about certain forces wanting to basically outlaw ownership of snakes/reptiles, visit the PETA site or the following:

Humane Society

Note that this organization doesn't want to address some of the negatives that we'd all like to see addressed, it's goal is to end private reptile ownership period.

If you'd like to submit feedback, the directions are at:

Feedback Link

Anyway, here's what I wrote:

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Dear US Fish and Wildlife Service:

It has recently come to my attention that the USFWS is considering adding snakes of the genera Python, Eunectes, and Boa to the list of injurious species in the Lacey Act. I believe including these genera is not only completely unnecessary, but actually might worsen any supposed problem that it is supposed to remedy. And many people would be negatively impacted financially as well as emotionally, since responsible reptile ownership is a thriving hobby.

Responsible reptile owners and breeders share many of the goals of the USFWS. We want to see our nation's natural habitats and ecosystems preserved and cared for as much as any other group of citizens. However, the proposed actions will do nothing to achieve this goal; it will, in fact, cause the very problems it's supposed to prevent.

Here are the points supporting my position:

1) All the Boid snakes selected for consideration are from TROPICAL environments. This fact alone eliminates any meaningful ecological effect that they might have in the vast majority of states in the US. A Reticulated python or Boa constrictor would
not survive very long in any area of the country other than southern Florida. In fact, in many parts of the country during
most of the year, such tropical snakes would probably perish within hours of being exposed to the natural environment.

2) It is already against the law to release pet/exotic animals into the wild. All states have such laws. There is no need for a federal agency to create more legislation that is redundant anyway. Let the states handle it.

3) Responsible reptile ownership is an enjoyable, educational and thriving hobby shared my millions of citizens. While there will always be irresponsible lawbreakers who own snakes, you also need to consider that the vast majority boid keepers are responsible with their pets. And there are positive effects of snake ownership that easily offset any illegal, stupid acts by a few idiots. Many boid owners use their snakes to EDUCATE themselves as well as others to reduce irrational fear of any/all snakes,
including indigenous species.

4) To support this educational and thriving hobby, there are many responsible breeders and supply companies that form a multi-million dollar industry. Banning interstate commerce of popular boid species would easily cripple, if not wipe out, this industry.

5) If the proposed legislation is passed, ironically THERE WOULD BE AN INFLUX of these boids into the wild. Why? Because all of a sudden, the thousands of boas/pythons/anacondas that out-of-business breeders own will become worthless. Surely, many of these animals will make their way into the wild.

6) The proposed legislation seems completely arbitrary and lacks any perspective. There are other feral/exotic species of animals and plants that pose a threat (to even the southern Florida region) that is many orders of magnitude greater than the any threat posed by a few isolated breeding colonies of exotic snakes/lizards. Most species of the proposed banned genera pose no threat to humans, even small children. Any threat they
might have is to rats and mice, which might actually be beneficial to the environment and humans!

Please use common sense when considering the proposal to include the selected Boid snakes in the injurious species list. These snakes pose nothing even close to a national threat to our environment or to our citizens.

Thank you for your time!

Replies (4)

medyssa Feb 08, 2008 10:41 PM

I think your letter was really awesome, I hate that the HS was so biased in their article and it seemed like when they were selecting quotes from people they chose their quotes carefully to include everything negative, especially one of the most commonly released reptiles into the wild, the green iguana which is sold in most areas without regulation or proper insight into making sure purchasers are knowledgable about what they are getting into.
I really appreciate your post. Many other people who posted refered to other animals that should be regulated, basically putting the spotlight on other issues including pitbulls.
I have also posted and although I was happy with what I included in my reply, I think that your's was articulate, to the point and well written. Not only that, but unlike others' posts, it was not rude, presumptious or agressive. I really appreciate that you were able to express the true sentiment to our plight so well.
Thank you!
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Jess
2.4 adult BRBs (Sango, Dude, Copper, Cleo, Cherry, Dudette)
1.1 baby BRBs born 6/18/06 my first litter(Zeek, Isis)
0.1 baby BRB produced by Dave Colling (Sable)
1.1 Pacific/celestial Parrotlets (Dewey and Delilah)
1.1 MORE Pacific/Celestial Parrotlets (Tickle and Booger)
1.0 normal corn (Pop the Cornsnake)
1.1 african brown house snake (Nellie, Lacie)
1.1 crested geckos (Chips, Dijon)
1.1 western hognoses (Google, Yahoo)
0.1 paranoid mother "too many snakes!"
1.0 significant other that gives me a funny look when I say a baby snake is cute

natsamjosh Feb 09, 2008 12:33 PM

Thanks Jess. Yeah, it's very sneaky what these groups are doing,
but I'm not sure they won't win in the end, simply because the (vast?) majority of people in this country don't like reptiles, much less large constrictors. So they start with the big snakes.
If there is even a chance of winning this fight, I agree with you, it will be through calm, rational responses, as well as educating non-reptile lovers about the reality of responsible
reptile ownership and the ridiculously overblown issues cited by the USFWS and anti-reptile groups. Nasty, name-calling letters
surely won't help the cause, it can only hurt it.

Thanks again, and keep the pictures coming!

Ed

>>I think your letter was really awesome, I hate that the HS was so biased in their article and it seemed like when they were selecting quotes from people they chose their quotes carefully to include everything negative, especially one of the most commonly released reptiles into the wild, the green iguana which is sold in most areas without regulation or proper insight into making sure purchasers are knowledgable about what they are getting into.
>>I really appreciate your post. Many other people who posted refered to other animals that should be regulated, basically putting the spotlight on other issues including pitbulls.
>>I have also posted and although I was happy with what I included in my reply, I think that your's was articulate, to the point and well written. Not only that, but unlike others' posts, it was not rude, presumptious or agressive. I really appreciate that you were able to express the true sentiment to our plight so well.
>>Thank you!
>>-----
>>Jess
>>2.4 adult BRBs (Sango, Dude, Copper, Cleo, Cherry, Dudette)
>>1.1 baby BRBs born 6/18/06 my first litter(Zeek, Isis)
>>0.1 baby BRB produced by Dave Colling (Sable)
>>1.1 Pacific/celestial Parrotlets (Dewey and Delilah)
>>1.1 MORE Pacific/Celestial Parrotlets (Tickle and Booger)
>>1.0 normal corn (Pop the Cornsnake)
>>1.1 african brown house snake (Nellie, Lacie)
>>1.1 crested geckos (Chips, Dijon)
>>1.1 western hognoses (Google, Yahoo)
>>0.1 paranoid mother "too many snakes!"
>>1.0 significant other that gives me a funny look when I say a baby snake is cute

Jeff Clark Feb 09, 2008 10:29 PM

Ed,
..Good letter. Maybe we should be addressing elected officials rather than the weanies at Fish and Wildlife.
Jeff

>>All,
>>
>>Just wanted to post a copy of the letter I submitted to the government. Feel free to paraphrase, ignore, ridicule or copy verbatim if you want to. Submitting feedback might be peeing in the wind for all I know, but for anyone doubting what Jeff said about certain forces wanting to basically outlaw ownership of snakes/reptiles, visit the PETA site or the following:
>>
>>Humane Society
>>
>>Note that this organization doesn't want to address some of the negatives that we'd all like to see addressed, it's goal is to end private reptile ownership period.
>>
>>If you'd like to submit feedback, the directions are at:
>>
>>Feedback Link
>>
>>Anyway, here's what I wrote:
>>
>>------
>>Dear US Fish and Wildlife Service:
>>
>>It has recently come to my attention that the USFWS is considering adding snakes of the genera Python, Eunectes, and Boa to the list of injurious species in the Lacey Act. I believe including these genera is not only completely unnecessary, but actually might worsen any supposed problem that it is supposed to remedy. And many people would be negatively impacted financially as well as emotionally, since responsible reptile ownership is a thriving hobby.
>>
>>Responsible reptile owners and breeders share many of the goals of the USFWS. We want to see our nation's natural habitats and ecosystems preserved and cared for as much as any other group of citizens. However, the proposed actions will do nothing to achieve this goal; it will, in fact, cause the very problems it's supposed to prevent.
>>
>>Here are the points supporting my position:
>>
>>1) All the Boid snakes selected for consideration are from TROPICAL environments. This fact alone eliminates any meaningful ecological effect that they might have in the vast majority of states in the US. A Reticulated python or Boa constrictor would
>>not survive very long in any area of the country other than southern Florida. In fact, in many parts of the country during
>>most of the year, such tropical snakes would probably perish within hours of being exposed to the natural environment.
>>
>>2) It is already against the law to release pet/exotic animals into the wild. All states have such laws. There is no need for a federal agency to create more legislation that is redundant anyway. Let the states handle it.
>>
>>3) Responsible reptile ownership is an enjoyable, educational and thriving hobby shared my millions of citizens. While there will always be irresponsible lawbreakers who own snakes, you also need to consider that the vast majority boid keepers are responsible with their pets. And there are positive effects of snake ownership that easily offset any illegal, stupid acts by a few idiots. Many boid owners use their snakes to EDUCATE themselves as well as others to reduce irrational fear of any/all snakes,
>>including indigenous species.
>>
>>4) To support this educational and thriving hobby, there are many responsible breeders and supply companies that form a multi-million dollar industry. Banning interstate commerce of popular boid species would easily cripple, if not wipe out, this industry.
>>
>>5) If the proposed legislation is passed, ironically THERE WOULD BE AN INFLUX of these boids into the wild. Why? Because all of a sudden, the thousands of boas/pythons/anacondas that out-of-business breeders own will become worthless. Surely, many of these animals will make their way into the wild.
>>
>>6) The proposed legislation seems completely arbitrary and lacks any perspective. There are other feral/exotic species of animals and plants that pose a threat (to even the southern Florida region) that is many orders of magnitude greater than the any threat posed by a few isolated breeding colonies of exotic snakes/lizards. Most species of the proposed banned genera pose no threat to humans, even small children. Any threat they
>>might have is to rats and mice, which might actually be beneficial to the environment and humans!
>>
>>Please use common sense when considering the proposal to include the selected Boid snakes in the injurious species list. These snakes pose nothing even close to a national threat to our environment or to our citizens.
>>
>>Thank you for your time!
>>
>>
>>

sean1976 Feb 12, 2008 03:20 PM

...I say we do both. Just print out two coppies(or more) of each letter you write and mail it to your local representatives and especially to, if anyone can find a list of them, the politicians directly involved with USFWS and the injurous species list in particular.

Just a thought to further your idea Jeff.

Sean.
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1.1 Triple Het TPRS's
0.1 Silver TPRS
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