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coxi question with a video

ThomasHarrison Feb 10, 2008 10:01 AM

I pulled my coxi out of brumation and put a pair together. I know with many species that a male may bite onto a female but in the video, the female repeatedly bites the male (the male has the thin stripes, who eventually takes her back but in the wrong direction).

Has anyone experienced this? I'm going to have to double check their sex.

Here's the link to the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY7PiNRKeag

Replies (8)

Elaphefan Feb 10, 2008 10:14 AM

I can't speak directly to Coxi since I don't breed or keep them, but with E. obsoteta, the general rule is that you wait until the female has shed after you have warmed her up from brumation before introducing the male.

From what I can see from your video, your female is not ready to mate and is resisting the male.

snakesdjf Feb 10, 2008 10:32 PM

Hi Thomas that was a cool video and is very interesting. thanks for sharing it with us on the forum. I have been breeding coxi(havent had too much luck,lol) and I know my female is very agressive and she did strike and nip onto my male and held on for a few seconds before letting him go while the male first started breeding with her. I am not sure if she did this because he surprised her. this has happened twice before with the same female. Unfortunately the last 3 yrs all I have got is infertile eggs. I used 2 different males and 2 different females also. The first yr the one and only clutch that hatched out was all males and no females. after that all infertiles. even doubled clutched and got the samel results. I think maybe I didnt cool them down enough and even though they are kept at room temp my snake room may have been a little too warm for them during the summer. This year I moved them into a separate(cooler) rm so I will keep my fingers crossed,lol. What temps do you brumate yours under? Dave LI NY

ThomasHarrison Feb 11, 2008 08:55 PM

I cooled them at about 55-58 degrees for three months. I just pulled them from brumation (I usually wait until the first shed to introduce them but I was curious) and their normal room temp is at about 73-74 degrees with a night drop to 70. After breeding snakes for 16 years, I never saw a female bite a male. I only observed females showing their disapproval by attempting to get away. I doubled checked and she is a female.

I will definately post any progress with this specie, as well as my red-headed rat snakes.

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thmpr134 Feb 17, 2008 11:22 PM

Dave,
What temp are you incubating at? Coxi eggs like it a little cooler than other rats. I incubate at 76-78F and have better hatch rates than I did when I incubated with the rest of the rat eggs at 82F. Just a thought.

Bryan

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snakesdjf Feb 19, 2008 10:50 PM

Hello Bryan thanks for the info. The eggs were actually laid infertile. I do keep the coxi at rm temps in the low 70's. I think maybe I didnt brumate them at a low enough temp. How low do you brumate yours? at 50? My brumation temps last year went a litte bit towards the 55 mark. Dave

thmpr134 Feb 19, 2008 11:33 PM

Dave,
I'm in the 50-55F range in my snake room for brumation. Usually right about 2 months. Good luck!

Bryan

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snakesdjf Feb 20, 2008 01:14 PM

Hey Bryan thanks for your advice it is much appreciated!! Do you wait for your female to shed before you introduce your males to her or put them together right away after brumation? Have yours double clutched often? thanks again Dave

thmpr134 Feb 26, 2008 03:39 PM

I do wait for the female to shed. I have had double and triple clutch years ever since they were old enough to breed.

>>Hey Bryan thanks for your advice it is much appreciated!! Do you wait for your female to shed before you introduce your males to her or put them together right away after brumation? Have yours double clutched often? thanks again Dave
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