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I have a large female thats 7' that I dont trust taking out of her cage. I have her and the male together and I need to seperate them for feeding, they are together for breeding and have not been fed for months but my female is to focused on me when I go near the cage likes she thinks is time to eat. What size hook would I need for a boa this size and what size hemostats for feeding?

Is it possible to take the male out so you don't even have to move her since they are together? That way no snake hook or anything, throw a towel or the female's head and get the male out and feed that heifer
Bob

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With a snake that size I would try to find a way to avoid having to do that as was suggested in the above post. A snake hook on a snake that large is not only painful for her, but could put undue stress on internal organs, developing babies, etc.

stricly4fun said to remove male so he didnt have to move female and toss towel over her so he could move male and use NO snake hook

his post is agreeing with mine. He is also adding the fact that a snake hook on a snake that big could hurt the babies, internal organs (and I'll throw ribs in there too) but all in all he said it right you just read it wrong got my e-mail???
Bob

i should of re read it lol no sleep for me i dont think i should reply when i havent slept oops i just blam it on you bob lol yeah i got your mail also now you got mail and lets stop making this OT lol

you say you don't trust her...is that because she's very aggresive and has bitten you before and hasn't ever been handled much, or is it just because of her reaction to you opening the cage? If she's been handled and is normally "tame", you could try using a snake hook just to hold her head back until you pick her up, or just put on a big coat and good heavy gloves, and reach in and grab her! Note: if you do this make sure someone's there to help you in case she happens to wrap!
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-David

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Just get a 20oz soda bottle and fill it 2/3rds full and freeze it solid.
When your big girl comes a calling just run that bottle in there and she will back away from it.If she does strike at it,shouldnt be more then once.
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TnK

That's the first time I hear anyone suggest that.

Dude ya dont hit'em with it LOL!!
It zero's out the heat signature,therefore no target to strike at.
One thing for true,it works !

>>That's the first time I hear anyone suggest that.
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TnK

Oh, I thought you meant you let them strike at it, and because
it's so hard, dense & cold they stop striking.

Boas strike based on movement to the best of my knowledge not
heat. I've got a little guy who's het for snow who will strike at
the glass over and over if he smells a rat. The glass is cold.

Pythons and tree boas have heat pits not regular boas...

a human sitting down or the pack of ice cubes in the freezer??? None are moving so which will they bite? It's not the ice cubes so I will give you one more guess

Boas strike based on movement to the best of my knowledge not
heat. I've got a little guy who's het for snow who will strike at
the glass over and over if he smells a rat. The glass is cold.

So how do you remove a boa from the cage without moving, hell you may even become rich off the idea, start mass producing your invention and some people MIGHT buy and others will use the frozen bottle of water. Do you own retics? Prolly not so you need to "hook train" them since they are very aggressive feeders you need to let them know when you open the cage that is not feeding time so the hook will touch them several times.

Your statement again

Boas strike based on movement to the best of my knowledge

since this true tell everyone who is feeding f/t and just leaves the rodent in there over night and miraculously it is gone the next morning and the snake has a noticable lump but in reality the snake didn't eat the rodent cuz it didn't move, so the rodent came back to life and jumped in the snake's belly which happens thousands of times a day too so go figure just my thoughts on your comment
heat.
Bob

I think your thoughts are a little more revealing than you
realize.

How did THAT happen?

knock the hell out of your boas with the frozen water bottle???

Letting Bob off his leash????

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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Never tried blunt trauma conditioning
Its pretty amazing how fast the animals react to that extreme temp.Just try it with a few unaggressive as well as the more aggressive ones and tell me boa dont react to heat signatures or temp variances while either in defensive or feeding postures.

Get a boa with a very strong feeding response thats never seen the frozen bottle,amped up with abit of scenting,the very next thing to enter the cage is that frozen object.
How did the animal respond ? I have two that literally "froze"
Head down and no tongue flicking etc,you could barely see them breath.
Its like everything just shut down ? I dont care to analyze stuff like this,I'll take face value(action/reaction)as proof enough.

>>knock the hell out of your boas with the frozen water bottle???
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TnK