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I have two 3 x 2 cages and I have a ball python in one, and was looking for another small breed of python or boa that would do well in a cage this size. I was going to get a rainbow boa or a blood python, but several people have told me that they would get to big for those particular inclosures, so I'm looking for input on something else. Any help would be most appreciated.

I have a few adult Rainbow Boas and I think a 3 x 2 cage would be plenty big for males and most females. If a female were to out grow a cage that size it would take at least 4 or 5 years. There are breeders keeping adult females in much smaller cages.

Dan

pending on cage type a rainbow would work great in that cage male or female specialy if it is 18" high with perches my rainbows love em just make sure whatever u get u do lots of research first both bloods and rainbows need WAY diff care then balls. and some time down the line u will end up with all three of em lol

Get a Blood! Awsome pythons!

Ian

Some bloods will out grow that, especially with the girth they get. I have seen 6' males. I would go with a woma or maybe a super dwarf retic.
nick

there is no way a woma or super dwary retic would be fine in a 3X2 specialy the woma and no1 is fessing up to the size of there oldest super dwarf and even then they will still get big the jampeas wich were considered dwarfs can reach huge sizes and no way that cage would be big enough it may take a longer time to get the size but super dwarfs will still outgrow that cage plus dwarf retics are more of a flighty snake and not the best for a hold me pet specialy form some who has a ball python might as well offer the guy a macklots

I’m a little confused. You say any female Rainbow Boa would be fine in a 3 x 2 cage but a Woma needs a bigger cage? I have a Rainbow Boa that is over 7 ft long and 10 lb. 10 oz. And she’s not even 5 years old yet. She would survive in a 3ft. Cage but I would never keep her in a one that small! From what I understand, Womas top out at about 6ft., why would they need a bigger cage? The reason I ask is that I’m buying 2 used 3ft. Vision cages from a guy that kept Womas in them. I’m also getting a pair of Womas to put in these cages. What am I missing?

Dan

womas are alot more active then rainbows from what i have seen and some can get HUGE womas as black head can range from 5-9 foot easy and a nice thick body to. when choosing a cage not only o you have to look at snake size but cater to the snakes needs like how to heat cage how much humidity and how active that kind of snake is.

i hope Celia from exotics by nature doesnt mind me using this pic but it shows a nice sized black head wich is also a Aspidites just like the woma and both the woma and black head are able to reach the same sizes.

Womas are much more active and do need larger enclosures than a similar sized less active snake. But, Womas are MUCH smaller than Black Heads.
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Gilbert Boas
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they still have the ability to get that size is it norm for them to be as big as the one in the pic no but is it possible yes. atleast we agree they are more active then some of the similar sized snakes lol

Yeah, I think of them as the colubrid or non-venomous elapid of the python world. Active, fast metabolisms, smart. And at times high strung.
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Gilbert Boas
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lol good way to look at it lol never thoguth about it like that before lol

Actually, I think some Blackheads can reach 12ft or more and I’ve heard of some 9ft Womas in Australia, but I believe the typical Woma in the US won’t get much bigger than 5 or 6ft. You probably already know, that although rare, Rainbow Boas have been known to reach 9 ft.

I understand that an active snake needs more room than an inactive one, but it makes no sense to me to say that you could keep every Rainbow Boa in a 3 ft cage and you need at least a 4 ft cage for every Woma. I will say that a typical Rainbow will do fine in a 3 ft cage. I don’t have any experience with Womas, but the ones I’m getting are maybe 3ft long now, if and when they out grow their 3ft cages I’ll gladly move them to larger ones, I’m just not convinced that I’ll have to.

Dan

i hear ya but more time then not a rainbow will be fine in that size as to where a woma will need bigger. but anywhos lol we all have had good points now we need to think of a snake that will fit perfect in his 3X2 cage lol still think a blood is a bad idea since from what it seems he only has a ball bloods are great i just wouldnt jump from ball to blood

could you post some more pics of that rainbow you got there she is a nice one here is a pic of one of mine from one of his sheds lol

Well I don’t know any thing about Bloods and I’ll leave it to someone who actually has Womas to say whether that cage is big enough for them or not. If he wants a Rainbow then more than likely that cage would be fine.

That’s a gorgeous BRB. Most of mine are a deep red. I bought several lighter colored babies last year hoping that at least a couple turn out that nice.

I don’t have any current pics. of Aurora, but here is another one from last Oct. She was 9lb. 11oz. then and she’s gained about a pound since.

Dan

very nice

Hey TIMS,
Please use commas or periods in your posts...they take me a bit to understand what you are trying to say. Where did you get your info on Super Dwarfs (True Super Dwarfs like those from Clark)and Womas? I would like to read it, as I am going to get a pair of Womas soon, and a pair of Super Dwarfs.
Here is a paragraph from Selective Origins website on Womas. They breed some of the nicest Womas out there.
"As with Blackhead Pythons, Womas make extremely rewarding captives and an excellent project for keepers with any level of experience. They are easy to keep, being excellent feeders and having few special requirements. Womas are, for the most part, docile and calm at all ages. Most Womas will attain little over five feet in length and are easily housed in cages with a 3x2 foot floor space. This small size and their calm, inquisitive nature often make Womas the keeper's favorite species of their collection."
Nick

the woma info was jsut from doing searches on the net and it seemed to be a average fo the same size there. sorry for no commas and periods etc. i usualy have little time on net and just try to geton and off. as far as dwarf retics i cant speak 100% on the super dwarfs specialy since they take so long to gt to adult size yes they are smaller and alot slower growing but still get a nice size. here is a pic of a pure jampea you knwo the ones every1 always says wont get to the size of a mainland and are quite small and breed at 5 foot, the same kind clark has a picture of wrapped around eggs in reptile magazine while he is hilding the whole clutch and snake third pic down
http://www.eyehit.com/gaspar/collection.htm
yes it is alot smaller then some of the big retics but they are also more active and not as sit still of a snake and dwarf retic breeder will tell you that well if they are honest lol

A male west papuan (irian jaya) carpet. Or a spotted or children's python. How about an amazon tree boa?

BTW - I saw a pic on some aussie website that had a woma almost the size of that blackhead posted above. Wish I could find it again.

a irian jaya would be great they are the smaller of the carpets that size cage would be great all the ones i have seen and handled have been great tempered they look cool lol i think that would be a perfect step up