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How long should it take to notice larva development

rc_racer_007 Aug 27, 2003 01:40 PM

Hey, i made some FF cultures last friday, and i want to know how long it should take to notice larva development. I think its around 14 days? Its just melenogaster wingless and flightless flys.

aj
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Replies (8)

Mothi Aug 27, 2003 01:47 PM

I've noticed tiny larvas in new cultures after adding adult fruit flies in 2 days. They are very very very tiny and all you see is a small triangular black speck moving back and forth. This black speck is their mouth part. It has been about a week since I started some cultures and there has been pupaes for at least a day now along the sides. From what I have read, eggs hatch within a day. Larvas may be so small you don't see them to start, but by a week, you should have pupaes.

rc_racer_007 Aug 27, 2003 03:07 PM

well i did 2 flightless last friday, then 2 wingless cultures last saturday. I havent seen nothing yet, but the media looks awful since it was the first time i did a culture, but i think i got it down. The first time i added to much water, and strirred the media with a spoon. I got it down pat, add water swirl fast before it "hardens" lol

aj
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Click Here to see my vivarium and steps on how to make a basic vivarium UPDATED 7.18.03 Now complete! All that is needed are some New River Tincs!

kungfu28181: My god. You are insane. -Mon Jun 30 21:41:05

NateW. Aug 27, 2003 05:34 PM

i usually see them in about 5 days, what medium are you using?
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Nate
1.1 alanis tincs
and some day, if it cools down...
0.0.2 Azureus (soon)
0.0.3 imitators very very soon

rc_racer_007 Aug 27, 2003 06:02 PM

Im using Eds and am trying my own media. My media is (total ingrediants):
8 cups potatoe flakes
1 cup bakers yeast
1 cup paperika
1 cup powdered suger (kyle's recipe except for the paperika)

Im using eds 1/3 cup media with 1/2 water
mine is the same 1/3 cup media with 1/2 water:vinger (white distilled of course).

iv seen nothing yet they stay around 70-75 degrees. but it wont be a week until friday.

aj
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Click Here to see my vivarium and steps on how to make a basic vivarium UPDATED 7.18.03 Now complete! All that is needed are some New River Tincs!

kungfu28181: My god. You are insane. -Mon Jun 30 21:41:05

Mothi Aug 27, 2003 07:14 PM

I made one recipe (attempt #1) with banana, potato flakes, powdered sugar, baby bird formula (powder since I had some lying around), methyl paraben, water, and active baker's yeast. My recipe ended up too moist, so I remade a new recipe (attempt #2)with more fruits (white nectarine, banana, and a lemon), potato flakes, powdered sugar, distilled vinager, water, and active baker's yeast. The consistency of this new batch is great. Just waiting to see how well it works.

Of my first batch (recipe attempt #1), I made 2 containers and put about 1/3 of my fruit flies I bought from the pet store in each. Here is my time table for what happened:
August 20 : Made medium.
August 21 : Added fruit flies at about 24 hour mark.
August 22 : Nothing to note.
August 23 : Mold seen on surface of medium.
August 24 : Mold still present and noticed 1/8" inch long larvas that had tiny black speck mouth parts moving on the top 1/4" of the medium.
August 25 : Mold is not bad anymore and looks to be almost gone. More larvas seen.
August 26 : First pupaes seen around the outter edge of container.
August 27 : More pupaes around the outter edge of container and still more worms in the top 1/4" of the medium. No more mold seen.

I made my second batch of medium on August 24. I only had a small number of fruit flies left in the original container (less than a dozen) I bought them in from the pet store so I put those in 24 hours after the medium was made. I still have not seen any signs of larvas, but am sure they are there since the container is big and their numbers must be very few compared to my 2 other batches.

rc_racer_007 Aug 28, 2003 12:15 PM

well right after i made my last post i checked the first cultures i did last friday. The ds fly meat media has a considerable ammount of maggots in there. My media doesnt have any, BUT i did see a maggot in the media, they are just hard to find, so it would be crawling with them, i just can see em.
(those cultures were made on the same day)
aj
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Click Here to see my vivarium and steps on how to make a basic vivarium UPDATED 7.18.03 Now complete! All that is needed are some New River Tincs!

kungfu28181: My god. You are insane. -Mon Jun 30 21:41:05

kyle1745 Aug 28, 2003 09:26 PM

1 cup bakers yeast? Should be Brewers yeast, and then just a pinch of bakers on top after the medium and water is added.
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Kyle
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1.2.0 D. leucomelas
0.0.2 D. azureus
0.0.3 D. imitators

rc_racer_007 Aug 29, 2003 12:21 PM

for some reason i keep saying one cup bakers yeast i mean 1 CUP BREWERS YEAST. lol sorry
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Click Here to see my vivarium and steps on how to make a basic vivarium UPDATED 7.18.03 Now complete! All that is needed are some New River Tincs!

kungfu28181: My god. You are insane. -Mon Jun 30 21:41:05

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