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Ideas on an Essay I need for college

godforbidwigwag Feb 13, 2008 07:10 PM

Hi, my wife is in college at the moment and she is writing an argumentive essay on why snakes should be pets and not banned.

Her title is "preserve the different, the extraordinary, and vulnerable." She has 2 reasons why, but needs 3.

Reasons so far: 1.Preserve a species that are endangered or exstinct in the wild.
2. Theres something for everyone. Large, small ect...

We have rainbow boas and thats what shes going to use in her oral presentation. She also has an area in her essay about rainbows and their habitat. Any ideas would be a great help.

Thanks in advance,
Michael and Sara Clark

Replies (16)

rainbowsrus Feb 13, 2008 07:45 PM

The very document this great nation is based upon, the decleration of independence!!!

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. "

Keeping and caring for my snakes is enjoyable to me!!!
-----
Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Jeff Clark Feb 13, 2008 07:49 PM

Dave is right. The government has no business interfering with our liberty and pursuit of happiness.

>>The very document this great nation is based upon, the decleration of independence!!!
>>
>>"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. "
>>
>>
>>Keeping and caring for my snakes is enjoyable to me!!!
>>-----
>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>Dave Colling
>>
>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
>>
>>
>>
>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
>>
>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>26.49 BRB
>>20.21 BCI
>>And those are only the breeders
>>
>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Jeff Clark Feb 13, 2008 07:58 PM

In comparison to the age of the earth we humans are only just very very recently disconnected from a lifestyle of living outdoors and observing nature full time. Over the last few hundred short years we have changed from being totally immersed in nature living outdoors among the animals to living indoors in climate controlled environments and eating only processed and precooked meals. Instead of hunting and foraging we work at mostly indoor jobs and then shop for sterile food products. If we did not have our pets many of us would never experience any connection to our wilder origins. I think that the more exotic and different the animals we keep the more they provide us with this valuable link to our past.
Jeff

>>Hi, my wife is in college at the moment and she is writing an argumentive essay on why snakes should be pets and not banned.
>>
>>Her title is "preserve the different, the extraordinary, and vulnerable." She has 2 reasons why, but needs 3.
>>
>>Reasons so far: 1.Preserve a species that are endangered or exstinct in the wild.
>> 2. Theres something for everyone. Large, small ect...
>>
>>We have rainbow boas and thats what shes going to use in her oral presentation. She also has an area in her essay about rainbows and their habitat. Any ideas would be a great help.
>>
>>Thanks in advance,
>>Michael and Sara Clark
>>

natsamjosh Feb 13, 2008 09:06 PM

Amen! Great post, Jeff. Just to add on to it, keeping snakes
also allows us to share this experience with our friends and neighbors, who otherwise might be irrationally fearful of snakes. Just the other day I was sitting on my front steps holding my Indigo, and before I know it, 1/2 dozen young kids and their parents were crowding around me. I let the kids pet the snake gently, and I told them they should not be scared, but respectful, of snakes. And that they shouldn't be killed for no reason. So pet snakes can be used to educate others as well as for our own enjoyment. I plan on bringing my snake to my son's 3rd grade class this spring.

Thanks,
Ed

>>In comparison to the age of the earth we humans are only just very very recently disconnected from a lifestyle of living outdoors and observing nature full time. Over the last few hundred short years we have changed from being totally immersed in nature living outdoors among the animals to living indoors in climate controlled environments and eating only processed and precooked meals. Instead of hunting and foraging we work at mostly indoor jobs and then shop for sterile food products. If we did not have our pets many of us would never experience any connection to our wilder origins. I think that the more exotic and different the animals we keep the more they provide us with this valuable link to our past.
>>Jeff
>>
>>>>Hi, my wife is in college at the moment and she is writing an argumentive essay on why snakes should be pets and not banned.
>>>>
>>>>Her title is "preserve the different, the extraordinary, and vulnerable." She has 2 reasons why, but needs 3.
>>>>
>>>>Reasons so far: 1.Preserve a species that are endangered or exstinct in the wild.
>>>> 2. Theres something for everyone. Large, small ect...
>>>>
>>>>We have rainbow boas and thats what shes going to use in her oral presentation. She also has an area in her essay about rainbows and their habitat. Any ideas would be a great help.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance,
>>>>Michael and Sara Clark
>>>>

godforbidwigwag Feb 14, 2008 06:54 AM

Thank you so much!!! I did use your ideas I found them more pwerful then some that I had. I have to turn in an outline today and then work on the facts in the essay for the next 2 weeks. Then in my last week first week of march I have to do an oral presentation. I think agrumentive essays are interesting and this topic is a strong one!!!! It should come together good.

Thanks again guys!!!!!

natsamjosh Feb 14, 2008 07:44 AM

If some PETA extremist nut tries to argue with you, now
you can knock him/her of his/her high horse!!!

Good luck,
Ed

>>Thank you so much!!! I did use your ideas I found them more pwerful then some that I had. I have to turn in an outline today and then work on the facts in the essay for the next 2 weeks. Then in my last week first week of march I have to do an oral presentation. I think agrumentive essays are interesting and this topic is a strong one!!!! It should come together good.
>>
>>Thanks again guys!!!!!

strictly4fun Feb 14, 2008 11:32 AM

check this out I stole it off another forum I keep up with

8 Things You Didn't Know About PETA

1) PETA president and co-founder Ingrid Newkirk has described her group’s overall goal as “total animal liberation.” This means no meat, no milk, no zoos, no circuses, no wool, no leather, no hunting, no fishing, and no pets (not even seeing-eye dogs). PETA is also against all medical research that requires the use of animals.

2) Despite its constant moralizing about the “unethical” treatment of animals by restaurant owners, grocers, farmers, scientists, anglers, and countless other Americans, PETA has killed over 14,400 dogs and cats at its Norfolk, Virginia headquarters. During 2005, PETA put to death over 90 percent of the animals it collected from members of the public.

3) PETA has given tens of thousands of dollars to convicted arsonists and other violent criminals. This includes a 2001 donation of $1,500 to the North American Earth Liberation Front (ELF), an FBI-certified “domestic terrorist” group responsible for dozens of firebombs and death threats. During the 1990s, PETA paid $70,200 to an Animal Liberation Front (ALF) activist convicted of burning down a Michigan State University research laboratory. In his sentencing recommendation, a federal prosecutor implicated PETA president Ingrid Newkirk in that crime. And PETA vegetarian campaign coordinator Bruce Friedrich told an animal rights convention in 2001 that “blowing stuff up and smashing windows” is “a great way to bring about animal liberation.”

4) PETA activists regularly target children as young as six years old with anti-meat and anti-milk propaganda, often waiting outside their schools to intercept them as they walk to and from class-without notifying parents. One piece of kid-targeted PETA literature tells small children: “Your Mommy Kills Animals!” PETA brags that its messages reach over 2 million children every year, including thousands reached by e-mail without the permission of their parents. One PETA vice president told the Fox News Channel’s audience: “Our campaigns are always geared towards children, and they always will be.”

5) PETA has used a related organization, the PETA Foundation, to fund the misnamed Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM), a deceptive animal rights group that promotes itself as an unbiased source of medical and nutritional information. PCRM's president also serves as president of the PETA Foundation.

6) PETA runs campaigns seemingly calculated to offend religious believers. One entire PETA website is devoted to the claim-despite ample evidence to the contrary-that Jesus Christ was a vegetarian. PETA holds protests at houses of worship, even suing one church that tried to protect its members from Sunday-morning harassment. Its billboards taunt Christians with the message that hogs “died for their sins.” PETA insists, contrary to centuries of rabbinical teaching, that the Jewish ritual of kosher slaughter shouldn't be allowed. And its infamous “Holocaust on Your Plate” campaign crassly compares the Jewish victims of Nazi genocide with farm animals.

7) PETA has repeatedly attacked research foundations like the March of Dimes, the Pediatric AIDS Foundation, and the American Cancer Society, because they support animal-based research that might uncover cures for birth defects and life-threatening diseases. PETA president Ingrid Newkirk has said that “even if animal research resulted in a cure for AIDS, we would be against it.”

8) PETA has recently (again) been caught killing puppies and kittens, collected from local no kill shelters, and dumping them in a grocery store's dumpster. They were collecting animals under false pretenses. They were telling shelters these animals had been found homes. They were euthanizing them in the back of a van and throwing them away, like commom trash. PETA stated it was better to be euthanized than be owned by humans. This was featured on CNN and other local news programs.

rainbowsrus Feb 14, 2008 12:41 PM

So, according to PETA, it's ethical to....

Lie about having owners lined up for pets then KILL them and dump them like trash.

Approach children without parental permission.

Destroy property including arson and bombing.

And it's unethical to......

Love your pet.

Allow a blind person to be mobile.

Allow a disabled person to have a pet do tasks for them.

What a bunch of nut cases!!!!
-----
Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

strictly4fun Feb 14, 2008 03:40 PM

natsamjosh Feb 14, 2008 04:15 PM

Thanks for posting that Bob. I didn't really know much about
PETA, but a while ago I saw a TV show that had a nimrod PETA representative whining about Britney Spears' dog being emotionally distraught because they saw a picture of the dog being separated from the kids. I couldn't believe what I was watching/hearing. The guy who was debating with this moron said something like, "Don't you have a species to save or some abused animals to rescue? Why are you wasting time with this?" It was hilarious and pathetic at the same time.

After seeing that, I wouldn't be surprised if any/all of the things in that list are true.

Thanks,
Ed

rainbowsrus Feb 14, 2008 04:38 PM

Yeah, they'd rather take Britney Spears dog to a better place aka back of the van, kill it and toss it in a trash can - better place!!

This is not the first I've heard of PETA being so contradictory to their name. What part of ethical treatment of animals means to kill them and toss them in the trash rather than allowing them into loving homes?
-----
Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

strictly4fun Feb 14, 2008 05:11 PM

in the world and I'm glad I'm not one of them

Jeff Clark Feb 14, 2008 07:00 PM

The most amazing thing about PETA is that they have so many members and supporters. We live in a country full of idiots.

>>check this out I stole it off another forum I keep up with
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>8 Things You Didn't Know About PETA
>>
>>
>>1) PETA president and co-founder Ingrid Newkirk has described her group’s overall goal as “total animal liberation.” This means no meat, no milk, no zoos, no circuses, no wool, no leather, no hunting, no fishing, and no pets (not even seeing-eye dogs). PETA is also against all medical research that requires the use of animals.
>>
>>2) Despite its constant moralizing about the “unethical” treatment of animals by restaurant owners, grocers, farmers, scientists, anglers, and countless other Americans, PETA has killed over 14,400 dogs and cats at its Norfolk, Virginia headquarters. During 2005, PETA put to death over 90 percent of the animals it collected from members of the public.
>>
>>3) PETA has given tens of thousands of dollars to convicted arsonists and other violent criminals. This includes a 2001 donation of $1,500 to the North American Earth Liberation Front (ELF), an FBI-certified “domestic terrorist” group responsible for dozens of firebombs and death threats. During the 1990s, PETA paid $70,200 to an Animal Liberation Front (ALF) activist convicted of burning down a Michigan State University research laboratory. In his sentencing recommendation, a federal prosecutor implicated PETA president Ingrid Newkirk in that crime. And PETA vegetarian campaign coordinator Bruce Friedrich told an animal rights convention in 2001 that “blowing stuff up and smashing windows” is “a great way to bring about animal liberation.”
>>
>>4) PETA activists regularly target children as young as six years old with anti-meat and anti-milk propaganda, often waiting outside their schools to intercept them as they walk to and from class-without notifying parents. One piece of kid-targeted PETA literature tells small children: “Your Mommy Kills Animals!” PETA brags that its messages reach over 2 million children every year, including thousands reached by e-mail without the permission of their parents. One PETA vice president told the Fox News Channel’s audience: “Our campaigns are always geared towards children, and they always will be.”
>>
>>5) PETA has used a related organization, the PETA Foundation, to fund the misnamed Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM), a deceptive animal rights group that promotes itself as an unbiased source of medical and nutritional information. PCRM's president also serves as president of the PETA Foundation.
>>
>>6) PETA runs campaigns seemingly calculated to offend religious believers. One entire PETA website is devoted to the claim-despite ample evidence to the contrary-that Jesus Christ was a vegetarian. PETA holds protests at houses of worship, even suing one church that tried to protect its members from Sunday-morning harassment. Its billboards taunt Christians with the message that hogs “died for their sins.” PETA insists, contrary to centuries of rabbinical teaching, that the Jewish ritual of kosher slaughter shouldn't be allowed. And its infamous “Holocaust on Your Plate” campaign crassly compares the Jewish victims of Nazi genocide with farm animals.
>>
>>7) PETA has repeatedly attacked research foundations like the March of Dimes, the Pediatric AIDS Foundation, and the American Cancer Society, because they support animal-based research that might uncover cures for birth defects and life-threatening diseases. PETA president Ingrid Newkirk has said that “even if animal research resulted in a cure for AIDS, we would be against it.”
>>
>>8) PETA has recently (again) been caught killing puppies and kittens, collected from local no kill shelters, and dumping them in a grocery store's dumpster. They were collecting animals under false pretenses. They were telling shelters these animals had been found homes. They were euthanizing them in the back of a van and throwing them away, like commom trash. PETA stated it was better to be euthanized than be owned by humans. This was featured on CNN and other local news programs.

rainbowsrus Feb 14, 2008 07:27 PM

Too many folks read the name and skip looking into the reality of the group.

To me, on the surface, the name sounds good and is a concept I agree with. Who here would disagree with the concept of ethical treatment of animals. We all dis on stores and/or people who do not properly care for their animals. (learning mistakes aside)
-----
Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

saagbay Feb 14, 2008 07:35 PM

you would thin the people have morals enough where that kinda thing isnt needed... but it is needed.... only problem is that complete wackos and nut jobs take it to such an extreme!!!!! i think animals should be treated and respected. but they are still ANIMALS!!!! you can still love and care for one but its an animal not a GOD to be worshiped
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-Stephen-

0.1 soon to be wifey (hopefully)
1.0 rotwiler/chow (Boomer-wifey's pooch)
1.0 norm corn (Jake aka grumpy old terdhead)
0.1 col redtail boa (Dixie-my baby girl)
0.1 ball python (Bella- wifey's baby girl)

hopeful for not to distant future:
--brazillian rainbow boas 1 female for sure
2 or 3? maybe a breeding pair?
-- bearded dragon for the wifey my list got to big...

more distant future hopefuls
1 or 2 of each maybe a breeding pair?
--anery boa (ooooh)
--jungle carpet python (love to have 1 or 2)
--dumeril boa (ahhhh)

slightly more wishful thinking
--hypo br rainbow boa (love em)
--anery br rainbow boa (oooh even better!!)
--motely boa (gorgeous!!)

natsamjosh Feb 14, 2008 10:31 PM

Exactly, and that's the sad thing - if they worked *with* the pet industry on reasonably addressing issues like prevention of irresponsible ownership and rescue of abused/unwanted reptiles, there might be some progress made.

Since they don't want animals to be used, I wonder how many PETA members have offered themselves to be experimented on for potentially life saving drugs and treatments.

>>To me, on the surface, the name sounds good and is a concept I >>agree with. Who here would disagree with the concept of ethical >>treatment of animals. We all dis on stores and/or people who do >>not properly care for their animals. (learning mistakes aside)

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