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FL Press x2: Licensed snakes may stay

Feb 18, 2008 06:20 PM

ORLANDO SENTINEL (Florida) 18 February 08 Deltona could back off ban on pet poisonous reptiles (Denise-Marie Balona)
Deltona officials may be backing off the city's ban on poisonous snakes as pets.
Tonight, the city commission will discuss changing its rule on what kinds of pets are allowed in neighborhoods. Officials had tried recently to force a resident to get rid of the 54 cobras, vipers and other venomous serpents he was keeping at his home on Snow Drive.
It was the first time the city attempted to enforce the rule. But after researching the issue, the city learned it cannot do anything about the reptiles because Brian Radenberg is a snake handler licensed with the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission. The state agency has sole authority over who can have venomous reptiles as well as other exotic animals such as tigers and bears.
State officials have said Radenberg had to meet strict requirements to get the license, including completing 1,000 hours of training and passing surprise inspections.
Deltona commissioners will discuss adding a sentence to the city ordinance saying that dangerous animals and venomous reptiles are allowed if they have permits from the Fish and Wildlife Commission.
If the change is approved tonight, it will go before the commission for second public hearing and a second vote on March 3.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/volusia/orl-bk-snakes021808,0,3303414.story

NEWS-JOURNAL (Daytona Beach, Florida) 18 February 08 Licensed snakes may get to stay in Deltona home (Bob Koslow)
Deltona: City officials say they can't force Brian Radenberg to get rid of 50 venomous snakes from his home on Snow Drive if he has a state permit and follows state guidelines.
As a result, the City Commission is expected to amend its animal control ordinance tonight to allow residents to keep captive wildlife if permitted by the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission.
"That's cool," Radenberg said Friday. "I had a lawyer send me some ammunition to use, but the city's decision is not shocking. I'm glad they are being understanding."
The commission is scheduled to meet at 6:30 p.m. at City Hall, 2345 Providence Boulevard.
Animal control officers cited Radenberg in December for having venomous snakes at his home, which violates a city ordinance prohibiting venomous snakes inside city limits.
Radenberg, 37, said he's kept venomous snakes since he was 5 as a hobby and has owned some for 20 years. His snakes include cobras, vipers and rattlesnakes. He said he doesn't sell snakes, but sometimes donates snakes to labs for venom extraction.
He researched state regulations on snakes before moving to Deltona from New York about 1 1/2 years ago, he said.
"I passed state inspections and requirements," he said. "I spent over $1,000 to reinforce some cages with plywood and thicker glass."
Animal control officers say they never received a complaint about the snakes. They found Radenberg's name and Deltona address on a list of state permit holders.
Many of Radenberg's neighbors don't mind the snakes. Twenty neighbors signed a petition urging the city to let him keep his snakes. They presented the petition to the City Commission two weeks ago when Radenberg sought a waiver of the animal control ordinance.
A waiver is not needed, said Acting City Attorney George Trovato. The state constitution empowers the wildlife commission to regulate wildlife and local governments cannot infringe on that power.
Radenberg was also cited for having 10 non-venomous snakes, five more than the maximum number of pets allowed in the city. He said he is working to find homes for five of those 10 so he is not violating city codes.
http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/News/Local/newWEST01021808.htm

Replies (4)

laurarfl Feb 18, 2008 08:20 PM

Glad to hear it!!! I remember reading that FWC reissued a statement re its authority in the beginning of 2008.

superdave1781 Feb 19, 2008 07:41 AM

just another example of a law that was passed without being scrutinized. They just pass everything now, and leave it to the people to fight it out and spend their money. I'm glad he got to keep his snakes, but where's the logic in making him reduce his nonvenomous collection down from 10 to 5??? This country is one big F***ed up mess
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-David

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1.0 argentine boa (Prometheus)
0.0.1 colombian boa (Athena)
0.1 hogg island boa (Andromeda)
0.0.1 brazilian rainbow boa (Inara)
1.0 Dumeril's boa (Hannibal)
1.0 kenyan sand boa (Diablo)
0.0.1 normal corn snake(Cypress)
0.1 amel. corn snake (Morgan LaFay) RIP
0.0.2 baby corns (Romulus and Remus)
- 1 normal, 1 ghost
0.0.1 banded cali. kingsnake (Cain)
1.0 tangerine honduran milksnake (Narcissus)
0.0.1 snow corn snake (Valkyrie)
1.1 garden phase amazon tree boas (Pegasus, Lenore)
0.0.1 baby yellow amazon tree boa (affectionately called
Snuggles)
0.0.1 albino san diego gopher snake (maybe Octavian)
0.0.1 sandfish skink (Slick)
0.0.1 fire skink (Phoenix)
1.0 bassett hound/black and tan coonhound mix (Luke)
0.1 Boxer (Zoe)
1.0 bearded dragon (Leonidas)
1.1 ferrets (Ares, Enyo)
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jscrick Feb 23, 2008 09:37 PM

Snakes are NOT pets. If that were true, anyone within that jurisdiction could only maintain a maximum of 5 fish in an aquarium and no other pets. Snakes are confined display animals, NOT pets!!!
jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

superdave1781 Feb 24, 2008 08:08 AM

are you an idiot, or do you just play one in real life???? Snakes ARE pets!!!!!!!!! How could you ever say they aren't? the definition of pet is: An animal kept for amusement or companionship. Explain to me how they DON'T fit into that? Even if you refuse to recognize the definition, MOST people consider a pet being any animal (even fish) that they keep which gives them comfort and makes life more enjoyable. If you only keep them for the purpose of making money, don't name them just give them an ID code, etc., then they aren't pets, they're livestock. A snake can be both, depending on what you keep them for! And just because "pet" in Florida law might not include them, it doesn't mean they aren't pets!!!! The government will often give a word a "legal" definition for the purposes of not having to explain in EVERY section what that word pertains to! You could look up every state, and many will have a different "legal" definition to pertain to the animals that the law was meant to regulate in that state!
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-David

Check out my pet pics at:
http://www.myspace.com/obx_fisherman

1.0 ball python (Pandora - don't ask)
1.0 argentine boa (Prometheus)
0.0.1 colombian boa (Athena)
0.1 hogg island boa (Andromeda)
0.0.1 brazilian rainbow boa (Inara)
1.0 Dumeril's boa (Hannibal)
1.0 kenyan sand boa (Diablo)
0.0.1 normal corn snake(Cypress)
0.1 amel. corn snake (Morgan LaFay) RIP
0.0.2 baby corns (Romulus and Remus)
- 1 normal, 1 ghost
0.0.1 banded cali. kingsnake (Cain)
1.0 tangerine honduran milksnake (Narcissus)
0.0.1 snow corn snake (Valkyrie)
1.1 garden phase amazon tree boas (Pegasus, Lenore)
0.0.1 baby yellow amazon tree boa (affectionately called
Snuggles)
0.0.1 albino san diego gopher snake (maybe Octavian)
0.0.1 sandfish skink (Slick)
0.0.1 fire skink (Phoenix)
1.0 bassett hound/black and tan coonhound mix (Luke)
0.1 Boxer (Zoe)
1.0 bearded dragon (Leonidas)
1.1 ferrets (Ares, Enyo)
1.2 cats (Galahad, Ripley and Sassy)
2.0 rats (Pan, no name yet)

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