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This older adult male is pretty clean as far as anerythristics go. He was the cleanest hatchling that Brian Barczyk had to offer.

~Doug

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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Doug,

is this from the original stock?

Gerrit
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Gerrit,....
Yes, he is from some of Brian's first few breedings that he did after acquiring some hatchlings from Dave Doherty, who imported the original anerythristic animal.

best regards, ~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Hi Doug,

what is known about the origin of Doherty's stock?
BTW, what ssp. is that LOL.

Gerrit
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Gerrit,....

Yes, I get the humor in your question..LOL!

Anyway, A friend of mine talked directly to Dave last year, and Dave confirmed that his original animal was indeed imported directly from Honduras, but he wasn't sure of the exact location within Honduras.

As to exactly what he bred it with to produce hets later on, I don't really know. There could possibly be a hint of stuarti in the mix as well, either from his original animal, or what it was bred to later on, who really knows for sure.

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Doug,

yes, that's exactly the point. I have seen this deep V in nearly all "oldschool" anerys. I think they are from the intergrade area in Honduras which seems to be pretty large, maybe larger then the pure ssp. areas?

Thanks,
Gerrit
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The original het that I bought as a pair has a pretty defined "V" shaped snout band, as well as some other characteristics, and so do some of the offspring I produced with the pair, I knew that's what you meant when you asked what ssp. it was.

Here is a pic of the original het female I got along with the anery. She has a VERY stuarti looking snout band, as well as the faded coloration, etc... Heck, I could probably sell her and some of the offspring as stuarti actually, but some look more hondurensis too, as would be expected for an intergrade of the two.

Like you, this is what I've also thought for many years. I think this is indeed the case here.

~Doug

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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Not bad @ at all.... great to see some 'old school' stock. Really clean. Thanks for sharing...

Chris

Nice looking Honduran Doug. I like those old guys.

Interesting substrate your keeping him on, must be grim to spot clean.
Funny I don't usually care for photos taken on the floor or on astro turf or on top of your kids head.(don't get me wrong, I've done all those), But that salt and pepper rug works pretty well at complimenting the colors of your old arney honduran.
You always have good photos, keep them up.

-Dell

Nice Doug. That snake is especially nice considering how old it is. I'm sure many produced back then weren't nearly as nice as that one. That one must have stood out as the pick of the litter for sure.

Dave
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