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so i went to a really good pet shop today and they had a real nice hypomelanistic BRB for sale. it was lacking a price tag so i asked and she told me $2,000. I thought this was a little pricy, although i could be wrong. Can any of you tell me if this is right?

and check out what me and my friend happened to come across under a rock on some trail in san jose! BEAUTIFUL baby rattlesnake!!

looks a lot bigger than it actually was

That's not a bad price at all. I've seen pairs for sale at around $5000. Just a single het female sells for around $1000.

That's a nice rattlesnake. What kind is it? I saw my first wild one last summer while on a dinosaur dig in Montana. One more step and I would have been right on top of this 4 foot Prairie rattler! It didn't give much of a warning.

Dan

believe me. That one may not have nice crescents, nice color cuz if the color isn't nice than it is prolly a low colored hypo. They are variances in the litter and the prices "should be" different from one another cuz they are not all made equally
Bob

2000.00 is an excellent price for nice looking hypo female. It almost sounds too good to be true. None of the breeders I know are selling them for less than 3k so retail stores would have to sell them for more to turn a profit. You might ask a bit about its background. Who knows, maybe it's the real deal.
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Mike Lockwood
www.tooscaley.com

Mike,
....I bet a beer that it is not an animal from your proven hypo bloodline and that instead it is just a nice light orange normal BRB.
Jeff

>>2000.00 is an excellent price for nice looking hypo female. It almost sounds too good to be true. None of the breeders I know are selling them for less than 3k so retail stores would have to sell them for more to turn a profit. You might ask a bit about its background. Who knows, maybe it's the real deal.
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>>Mike Lockwood
>>www.tooscaley.com

haha hopefully im not looking into getting it but just wanted to find out it is a very nice looking animal so maybe somewhere down the road ill get it!!

I agree it sounds fishy. But where is the pet shop? Maybe someone else in the forum lives near it and can check it out.

Thanks,
Ed

its East Bay Vivarium in Berkley California so if any of you guys live near there check it out!

Could the snake have been a het for hypo rather than an actual
hypo?

>>its East Bay Vivarium in Berkley California so if any of you guys live near there check it out!

some hypos have very nice crescents, some almost have eclipse phase crescents (which doesn't show color in the hypo it show black or albino phases which shows white), some have nice color, some have great color and others have not so good color. So given all of that it is hard to pay the asking price for one when they are all labeled the same but don't all look the same. Hypo bci's range from $200-2k just depends what you're looking for. I think more and more people will try to undercut other competitors (big names) so be careful who you buy from and it is all about the lineages and the normals used to outcross and so on and so on......... sorry for rambling
Bob

Mike Lockwood and I believe they were the first ones to get into the hypo project after Mike produced them. They have very high prices to begin with and their males are still 5k or something like that so I believe it is just a very low colored one. I also believe that is where Bryan Hummel got his "red" hypo from but could be wrong but don't think so
Bob

At Eastbay Vivarium. Then it must be the real deal. So it looks like I owe everyone a beer. So I am buying at Daytona. I better qualify that and make it that I am buying a beer for all the Rainbow Boa forum regulars at Daytona.
Jeff

>>its East Bay Vivarium in Berkley California so if any of you guys live near there check it out!

Daytona '09??????????????????? I hope to make it there that year and hopefully Mike and Dave can do the same.

>>Daytona '09??????????????????? I hope to make it there that year and hopefully Mike and Dave can do the same.

... with a particular year, so Jeff will be buying beer every year at Daytona.

Thanks,
Ed

>>Daytona '09??????????????????? I hope to make it there that year and hopefully Mike and Dave can do the same.

Jeff and the Seminoles j/k

Bob,
...I actually went to see the Seminoles home game against NC State. My favorite niece is a Seminole. Lots of family members have made bad choices.
Go Gators!!!
Jeff

>>Jeff and the Seminoles j/k

>>Daytona '09??????????????????? I hope to make it there that year and hopefully Mike and Dave can do the same.

how a bout a cash refund, or a gatoraide instead? i dont drink beer
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-Stephen-

0.1 soon to be wifey (hopefully)
1.0 rotwiler/chow (Boomer-wifey's pooch)
1.0 norm corn (Jake aka grumpy old terdhead)
0.1 col redtail boa (Dixie-my baby girl)
0.1 ball python (Bella- wifey's baby girl)

hopeful for not to distant future:
--brazillian rainbow boas 1 female for sure
2 or 3? maybe a breeding pair?
-- bearded dragon for the wifey my list got to big...

more distant future hopefuls
1 or 2 of each maybe a breeding pair?
--anery boa (ooooh)
--jungle carpet python (love to have 1 or 2)
--dumeril boa (ahhhh)

slightly more wishful thinking
--hypo br rainbow boa (love em)
--anery br rainbow boa (oooh even better!!)
--motely boa (gorgeous!!)

for the guys though and if you make it, I got you two rounds of anything you want

Red Bull
Gatorade
Dasani w/ Lemon

I haven't been in ther in a while, but Bob's history lesson is correct. If EVB is calling it a hypo, then it's a hypo. 2k is a steal. Better get her quick!
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Mike Lockwood
www.tooscaley.com

Mike's website I can't tell you how many times I have read that page Mike but I love where you can read about the guy you are buying from like yourself, and Will Bird has another good one too. Mike is it safe to say that your line is the only one out there cuz I truely believe it is. take care and who let you out of school so early huh???

There is a line that has been started by Darren Bell. It isstill being worked with but I don't know if new hypos have ever been produced. You also hear of a few spontaneous hypo births occurring here and there. Two years ago a guy in New Jersey produced what look like hypos.

By the way, I just have a few minutes here between class and swim practice. Back to work.
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Mike Lockwood
www.tooscaley.com

Like Mike already said, if it's at EBV then it's a hypoo.

BUT, not all hypos are created equal. I saw some they had for sale at recent shows and IMO they were quite inferior in color when compared to Mikes at the very same shows. I was almost embarrased for them (EBV that is).
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

~

I think Celia is the cheapest and her females run about $2800 but she loves cash hell I love cash but it's been awhile since I had some
Bob