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xBlackHeart Feb 20, 2008 09:19 PM

can you breed a pacific gopher to a sonoran albino gopher without tricks?
And are gophers ever canabalistic?
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"I try to take one day at a time but sometimes several days attack me at once"

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jason nelson Feb 20, 2008 11:14 PM

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skronkykong Feb 21, 2008 12:13 PM

Wow, never seen that before. Were those different gophers or just one rogue cannibal? Also was it eating smaller snakes? dang.

jason nelson Feb 22, 2008 05:57 PM

Those were the same snakes in all pictures. They were siblings and about the same size as each other.

Jason

geckoejon Feb 21, 2008 09:01 PM

wow! i guess a pic is trully worth a thousand words. thanks for the pics jason. i didn't know the pits to be canabalistic. that's something to keep in mind. i had that happen with hatchling kings once. that was a hard lesson to learn. i would hate to have a repeat with my pits. i'll make sure to have plenty or enclosures at hatching time, which will hopefully be next spring.
jonathan

jason nelson Feb 22, 2008 06:01 PM

Yeah I think it was a rare case. I wouldn't worry about it happing again. Yep I ran out of individual cages for hatchlings that year. But thats what could happen. Yes lesson learned the hard way.

Jason

ginter Feb 21, 2008 09:45 PM

for the images. I have heard many reports of P.c. deserticola having more opportunistic feeding habits that include lizards and snakes however this is the first I have heard of other members of the Genus being deliberatly ophidiophagic. I am glad you captured those images. You should publish that in a herp journal. I have not experienced it myself other than an accidental ingestion of one hatchling Stillwater by another,( I foolishly fed them in the same enclosure w/o supervision).

Thanks agin for sharing!

Ginter

PGlazenerCooney Feb 22, 2008 03:22 PM

John,
Too cool!!!!!! I think deserticola are one of the most underated gophers around!!!!! Many moons ago when I kept deserticola I could feed mine lizards and one took a snake. I also had annectens take lizards but never did my affinis or catenifer take lizards. Of course we're only talking about 5-15 specimens of each (all WC back in the days of my raping and pillaging as I grew up in Orange Co. CA)I have to say they had a preference for Uta stansburiana over any Sceloporus (also WC). That is a super Great Basin specimen pictured!!!!! Thanks!!!!!

Shalom,
Pat

jason nelson Feb 22, 2008 06:03 PM

Hey thats a nice lookin deserticola.

Jason

reako45 Feb 22, 2008 10:15 PM

That's a great lookin' Great Basin. One of my fave Pits!

Jason, great post and pics. I've heard about rare instances Gophers eating other snakes (even in the wild), but seeing is believing.

reako45

amazonreptile Feb 25, 2008 04:58 PM

Isn't it kinda expensive to feed snakes to your gophers?

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xblackheart Feb 21, 2008 10:18 PM

was that different views of one snake eating just one other or was it multiple snakes eating multiple different ones?
thanks for the input. I def. will not leave my smaller male in with the female.!


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****Misty****

www.sneakyserpents.com

"I try to take one day at a time but sometimes several days attack me at once"

jason nelson Feb 22, 2008 05:54 PM

Yes that was just different angles of the same snakes. Those were sibling snakes and were about the same size. I think this is a very rare case. I usely dont house my snakes together but that year I produced some many I had know choice.

Jason

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