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NARBC was fun today. Lots of vendors and the usual riff raff of Ball Pythons in assorted Coffee flavors. I said HI to Nigel Marvin this time while walking around. It was very nice to meet MAXRR at the show.

Very few Alterna at the show. We picked up some of the most aweome Alterna I have ever seen at the show. I have been trying to get these animals for 2.5 months. MAJOR THANKS to Mike P and Dean M. for the animals. I will have to post them on Sunday.

Picture this... Black on Black blairs and Grey on Black blairs... LOCALITY from Buffalo Creek.

Life is good... Was my son's Birthday Party Today, picked up a pair of incredibly neat snakes, talked to some folks at the show I haven't seen in years and met some new folks.

Best Wishes,

SXO792

Hey Steve,

Glad to hear you were able to finally get those animals!!

I am looking forward to seeing the pix!

~ Mike Russo

steve, thats awesome I know the snakes you speak of.I think one is named tar baby or something cute.
Can't wait to see pics.You should get those pandale paved animals from Dean also.If he still has them?

L8r Shannon

Dean had 1.2 south 277, 1.2 north 277 and 1.1 hodraw.(WC)
Also various hatchlings that someone else picked up most of...

The highlites were obviously the black on black blair from buffalo creek (I am not using the name tar baby, as I had no idea before yesterday it is a racial slang.) Therefore it will be named something else.

The other was an F1 from T-baby and one of the WC females from that area. She is a grey on black blairs that absolutely rocks.

January, we picked up 1.2 from the south end. Mike is not parting with the Hodraw animals. Another fellow poster picked up the really nice blair from buffalo creek.

Best Wishes,

SXO792

So, where are the pix of these beauties!!

Get snappin Steve!

~ Mike Russo

It was very nice to meet MAXRR at the show.

MaxRR, if I'm not mistaken you live in close proximity to me? We might need to join up to road cruise/hit some cuts (for falcons) in a couple of months.

I didn't get to stick around for TOO long; last year I dropped the spouse off at the mall while the kid and I attended the show. This year, she tagged along and does not feel the need to look at EVERY animal from EVERY vendor like I do for some reason! I'm just impressed Dusty Rhoads remembered who I was.

I think the bar was set at $15,000 for a single ball python.
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Chris McMartin
www.mcmartinville.com
I'm Not a Herpetologist, but I Play One on the Internet

Was Dusty the young lady that was sitting next to Mike Price? If so, subocs may have just got a lot more interesting...

I remember at the show I said Mike P is the king of subocs and he said no that title now goes to Dusty. (I am thinking, nobody has more subocs than you Mike). Then he pointed to the stall next to him.

Nice to see some ladies involved with herps. Couldn't get my wife out there unless they were giving away Gucci purses with every Alterna found.

Sorry we missed you Chris. I hope you took your wife to North East Mall rather than the Parks... Much Nicer...

Best Wishes,

SXO792

I think Dusty (left) might take issue with being thought of as feminine LOL.

I only saw the lady on the right hand side. She was the only person in the booth next to him.

My bad...

Steven

That's all right dude...
Several people asked me if Amy (Dusty's WIFE) was my daughter...

Ouch!

Happy herpin'...

MP

Steven,

Thanks for the compliment...glad you approve.

It seems every time I left the booth for any random reason, about four different guys came looking for me. C'mon guys, I know my wife is more interesting than me, but we're there for snakes, for crying out loud.

She said somebody had heard a myth that there was a rare black and white suboc in the book. Now THAT would be cool, wouldn't it? LOL I don't know how these crazy rumors start.

There actually was a black and white rumor several years ago. One fellow told me he found a grayish suboc on the Gap and bred it. Some of the babies came out "black and white", he told me. After I saw the pictures, I thought "black and white" was a very hopeful way of putting it. (Just like "blue-eyed" and some of the other marketable-but-not-exactly-100%-gospel-truth phrases you hear out there in this hobby). They're just light buckskin normals. When I hear that you have a black and white animal, I want to only see the two colors that a non-colorblind person sees on this post (not counting any hyperlinks -- just text and background). That's just like the ball pythons, I don't know how many times I've seen a "new morph!!!" posted on KS that looks pretty much brown and black, and normally-patterned. LOL

Dusty R.

Suboc.com

Never heard of a black and white suboc. You got me on that one.
You look familiar, but I don't know if we have ever met.

Congrats on the book.

Steven Owens
"I am STEVEN OWENS and I approve this message"

Hey Chris, I believe we're probably in the same zip code right now, lol...We'll definitely have to join forces and do some falconry this spring/summer I especially wouldn't mind looking around for that local tri-color...I have your number from last year when we were supposed to possibly meet up. Unfortunately, it was cold and rainy, so I chickened out and turned around in San Angelo...PM me and I'll give you my cell...

Max
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Snakes to the Max

On the local tri-color. The Abilene zoo goes every year and plays the clearing house game. Then they can't get them to feed (told 2nd hand)... No telling what happens then.

Morale of the story... You can try to get out there early. I think Lance and I have given up. We have some from that area though. Thanks to a couple of friends.

Best Wishes,

SXO792

>>On the local tri-color. The Abilene zoo goes every year and plays the clearing house game. Then they can't get them to feed (told 2nd hand)... No telling what happens then.

I don't want to keep, just take pics. I'm not currently in the market for any more captives.

>>Morale of the story... You can try to get out there early. I think Lance and I have given up. We have some from that area though. Thanks to a couple of friends.

According to the Wise (and apparently old!) Jedi, I went out too early (already tried this year), but I figured with the crazy temps lately I might be pleasantly surprised. That was not the case.

Will try again in a few weeks--perhaps MaxRR, Mike, and myself can have better luck; although Mike, I think the weekend I have free (well, the Sat morning anyway) is Easter weekend--could put a damper on the travel plans.
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Chris McMartin
www.mcmartinville.com
I'm Not a Herpetologist, but I Play One on the Internet

We'll definitely have to join forces and do some falconry this spring/summer

My time will be fairly limited. The weekend of March 15th I'm taking my family to Big Bend Ranch for a one-day rafting trip and some incidental herping. One weekend in April I'll be up at Caprock Canyon SP. I have some random other stuff planned here and there, and I have 25 days of "vacation time" that I have to use or I lose it, so I might have to play hooky to hit some of my target species (in no particular order):

concho and brazos water snakes
alterna (of course)
TX banded geckos (sadly, my white whale!)

If I can find time, I might also meet up with the reticulated collared guys to try to find a few.

I'm sort of on the edge of my seat, waiting to hear if I'm being relocated this summer (who knows where). That will definitely impact my herping plans (either I'm going to try to squeeze in a lot before I get sent somewhere where it snows, or I'll have time to spread it out more).
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Chris McMartin
www.mcmartinville.com
I'm Not a Herpetologist, but I Play One on the Internet

Hey Chris, we saw each other last June. Why wouldn't I remember you? It was nice seeing you again. I hope you get to stick around to do some falconry for awhile.

DR
Suboc.com

Hey Steve, it was nice to meet you and Lance over the weekend. So, what was the end tally of Starbucks-menu-Balls? Lol, I had a good time at the show and was very happy about my pick-up from Mike. I'll post pics of her soon...I'm very envious of your black on black; I was considering buying her before Mike informed me she was taken To make up for that, I think you guys are now obligated to pair up your male Buffalo with my new female, LOL!

I was also fortunate enough to meet Dusty and order one of his books. I can't wait to get it! I picked up a pair of Blonde het silvers and am hoping to convince Dusty to let me take one of his male silvers off his hands...We shall see...

This weekend sure made me anxious for the coming season

Max

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Snakes to the Max

Hey dude!
Please give me a call at the NC (325.942.0121) tomorrow morning... I need to talk to you about something!

Happy herpin'...

MP

Hey Max,

It was cool to meet you too. Thanks for stopping by, and thanks for your vote of confidence.

By the way, sorry to drop a proverbial bomb on the possible-future-fiance thing. That was kind of awkward, eh? LOL

Ciao,

Dusty R.
Suboc.com

Congrats on your purchase, can't wait to see the pics. Here are some Buffalo Creeks I produced this year.

I vended with some friends at NARBC, The show went well for me. I moved most everything but my high-end stuff. I came home with more money than I left with (even after the table and fuel), which is a first for me at a show, and I brought home some cool animals that I didn't have before. The only thing that sucked about the show, was the shear number of obvious WC animals on tables.

Mostly I got some higher end cornsnakes, but I did manage to bring home one local female alterna. Mike Price hooked me up with the Mail Trail female. Ill get some pics later. It looks like I have another area I need to photograph male alterna at (I need 4 males, at least I dont need females, that would be harder).

I got home from the show and started unloading, low and behold, there is one bag that is missing an animal. Guess which one, the Mail Trail female. Well I tore my truck apart, as I assumed it was still in there. Well no dice. I didnt know where else to look and seeing as I hadnt eaten yet, I went and got some food. On the way home from eating, I made some calls to a friend and my dad telling them the snake disappeared. I went in the house, sat down and saw something on TV that reminded me of something I forgot to tell my dad (Make fun of screwy louie backing obama [yes I know, the proper names are not in caps, there not supposed to be]). I made the call and stepped out on the porch, before the call could attempt to connect I noticed some thing I had not seen in almost two years. It was the unmistakability of gray and dark orange moving through the grass. She was crawling from under the truck to under a railroad tie that was in front of the house.
I dropped the phone (g-zone from verizion, water and shock proof, I recommend it) and proceeded to do "the dance". Never would have thought I would be doing "the dance" in Kingsville, TX. She is now safe and secure. If I can muster up a Mail Trail male, perhaps I will have some local babies this year.
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South Texas Herps

Congrats on the re-find... You are very lucky indeed.
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Herp Conservation Unlimited

Talk about lucky. Your animals produced some really neat stuff.
Congrats!

I know she is dark but cool indeed.

Best Wishes,

SXO792