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burm help

k_house42 Feb 27, 2008 12:58 AM

i have a pairr of 8 foot burms an albino granite and a albino labyrinth. when i got them they had mights, which led to a respiratory. i took them to the vet treated them, the granite cleared up fine and is eating like a hog. the labyrinth's has come back and he has not ate during this whole ordeal does anyone have any suggestions.

Replies (9)

Carmichael Feb 27, 2008 08:21 AM

You didn't mention the course of treatment you followed. It's very common to have to repeat antibiotics and go through several courses of treatments before getting the problem under control. RI can be a recurring problem throughout a burm's life despite proper treatment. There's some real neat research taking place right now on proper treatment of RI in pythons - it will be published in the near future but I can't say too much. I will say that keeping the burm at optimal temps (82 on cool side and mid to upper 80s on warm with a constant 24/7 basking spot that can get up to 100-110) along with excellent humidity levels will go a long way towards recovery. Some meds work great (like Fortaz and if administered properly, Amikacin) while others have only limited success. Hope this helps.

Rob Carmichael, Curator
The Wildlife Discovery Center

>>i have a pairr of 8 foot burms an albino granite and a albino labyrinth. when i got them they had mights, which led to a respiratory. i took them to the vet treated them, the granite cleared up fine and is eating like a hog. the labyrinth's has come back and he has not ate during this whole ordeal does anyone have any suggestions.
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Rob Carmichael, Curator
The Wildlife Discovery Center at Elawa Farm
Lake Forest, IL

HappyHillbilly Feb 27, 2008 10:27 AM

Hi!
If you're keeping them together I'd seperate them. Increasing the temperatures, like Rob said, is good. If the enclosure isn't set up to allow a basking spot with the high temps Rob suggested without raising the overall ambient temp I'd suggest increasing the hot side to around 92 - 95 and let the snake choose the temp it needs/desires (it knows what it needs).

I feel the humidity level should be around 65 - 75%.

Another trip to the vet would be a good idea. Probably the best idea. The type of med prescribed may not have been effective, the length of treatment might've been too short, the snake may not have had access to proper conditions for recovery, or a few other things.

Have a good one!
HH
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Due to political correctness run amuck,
this ol' hillbilly is now referred to as an:
Appalachian American

HappyHillbilly Feb 27, 2008 10:33 AM

What are the symptoms you're seeing now? Heavy, laborous breathing, nasal discharge/bubbles, body swellling, etc...?

HH
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Due to political correctness run amuck,
this ol' hillbilly is now referred to as an:
Appalachian American

k_house42 Feb 27, 2008 11:00 AM

nasal discharge is the only symptom left, they don't breathe heavy or wheeze, just the nose.

k_house42 Feb 27, 2008 01:39 PM

another quick question, does anyone know if anything strange will come out of the albino labirynth bred to a albino granite?

HappyHillbilly Feb 27, 2008 10:10 PM

The temperatures I suggested are on the high end of the range and they will advance an RI if the humidity isn't kept up. Having a good thermometer & hygrometer are important so that you know, without a doubt, that you're not a few degrees too hot or humidity level is too low.

I hope I don't insult your intelligence with that comment, it's just one of those things that I feel should be expressed, maybe not so much for you, yourself, but for those that read the forums looking for answers.

As for your genetic question, the babies should be all albinos that are het labyrinth & granite. As for whether or not "anything strange" comes from it, it's always a possibility, but usually slim. The chances should improve by breeding the offspring. But you just never know what may be in the genes of the parents and if/when it ever shows up. Stranger things have happened.

Take care!
HH
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Due to political correctness run amuck,
this ol' hillbilly is now referred to as an:
Appalachian American

Kelly_Haller Feb 27, 2008 05:41 PM

keep the humodity at least 70 to 75% if you raise cage temps into the 90's.

Kelly

ArtInScales Feb 27, 2008 07:41 PM

Has the mite problem been solved? If not, this needs to be taken care of. It could also be a reason the labyrinth isn't eating.

Raising the temps and good humidity should aid in clearing up the respiratory problem like the others have said.
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Randy and Michelle
Art In Scales
(719) 439-4199
info@artinscales.com

k_house42 Feb 27, 2008 08:25 PM

the mites have been gone for a while now, i used the nix lice treatment, worked like a charm

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