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The Beauty is dead:

boaphile Feb 28, 2008 11:09 AM

The Beauty is dead:

The beauty has died. It actually was last week Friday, but I only now have been able to come to grips with it and say anything about it. I waited several days to tell my wife. This RED Monster Tail Hypo was, in my eyes, the most beautiful Boa I have ever seen. A Monster Tail Hypo from the original litter produced by the Monster Tail female in 2000. She was the most important Boa that I owned. The one animal I valued over everything other animal that I have ever produced or purchased.

On Friday, February 22, 2008, I was making my standard rounds. I turned up the thermostats and I checked to see who was breeding, who was looking closer to an ovulation or who was actually ovulating when I came to her cage. Her cage at eye level, where I keep all the most important animals. She first one I checked in that isle most days. Several times a day actually. She was all stretched out leaning slightly. An unusual position to lay in, but generally not any reason for alarm. The male Motley that has been breeding her was still doing his job. He was on her courting with his vent aligned with hers. But it was strange that the leaning was extended all the way to the tail tip. Her vent was actually off the bottom of the cage pointing sideways. That was unusual, and immediately when I saw that, my heart sank knowing that was not normal. I bumped the front of the cage. She was actually leaning against it. The Motley moved but she did not. I opening the door, as my heart sank deeper, still she moved not a muscle. I touched her firmly with my right hand. She was not stiff, but neither was she solid and muscular. There was no push back from her flexing muscle as I gently squeezed for a reaction. She was dead and apparently very freshly dead.

This lovely creature that had never missed a meal except when gravid three years ago. The Beauty that was nearly 8' long, almost 8 years of age and my pride and joy amongst my Boas was lifeless. She had seemed submissive to the courtship she had endured for the past 3 1/2 months. She ate each time I offered a rat during this breeding season. Three times did she eat including the last time less than three weeks ago. She had appeared very thick and I was anticipating an ovulation at any moment. Anticipating with great interest actually that massive swelling that she will never have again. I am heart sick. I am down. But! I am not defeated.

You see, she did have that litter three years ago. I still have every baby from that litter save one. No big surprise there I suppose. There will be more eventually. Several of her male babies have bred this year and I hope to have babies from them. While she is gone, her genes will live on and I look forward to making more. I was so looking forward to this particular female producing some Monster Tail Hypo Motleys with her color. That will have to wait now, but I will continue to work toward that end. Eventually it will happen.

I thought I would take this very negative experience to talk about this just a bit. Breeders do not like to talk about this. It happens. When you have a lot of Boas, you will see it more often than you wish to. Boas die. And they die sometimes without any warning whatsoever. Everything can be going perfectly well. No sign that anything is amiss and... it happens. It happens less often with males. At least that has been my experience. Females that have been successfully bred are more likely to do this. Older females that are never successfully bred, seem to just go on and on. But once a female has been bred successfully, she may shock you one day. I don't know how many times it has happened to me. I have been keeping a lot of Boas for a long time. I rarely get rid of older animals choosing rather to keep them indefinitely. I have seen it. I never get used to it. I just wish there was a good way to know better than I do. Had I known anything was wrong perhaps I could have done something differently. The beauty is dead, but not gone as her genes live on.

Here is a shot of her mom the original Monster Tail:

Here was the Red Monster Tail Hypo was as a baby right after her first shed:

Another shot as a little one:

Her she was when a bit over a year old:

And in all her glory when she was about 7' long two years ago:

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Replies (33)

kirby Feb 28, 2008 11:18 AM

Sorry to hear about your loss. It is never easy especially when it is one of your most prized animals that you have produced and raised yourself. Hopefully her offsprong will produce another amazing animal to captivate you for the next decade.
Bill Kirby

kblumenthal Feb 28, 2008 11:20 AM

I'm so very sorry to read of your loss. Thank you for sharing your tragedy with the rest of us, and she will be missed by me as well. Thankfully you have her offspring from her first litter to carry on her legacy and her beautiful looks. Hang in there!
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Kevin Blumenthal
www.blumenboas.com

Hissenia Feb 28, 2008 11:28 AM

Sorry for your loss!!
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Adrian De Leon
Hissenia Reptiles

rainbowsrus Feb 28, 2008 11:30 AM

She was such a gorgeous snake, damn!!!!! I've always loved the pics of her and thought she was the best looking hypo I'd ever seen!!!!

That really sucks!!!! Hope your feeling better about the situation.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Daniel Klopson Feb 28, 2008 11:35 AM

That is a painful feeling. I've been in those shoes once or twice myself. Never thought loosing an animal could be so painful... but when you've had it 7,8,9, years, when its your project... thats tough! I'm glad you have her babies to carry on those awesome genes. More good than bad a. Dan

ajfreptiles Feb 28, 2008 11:40 AM

Jeff, I am very sorry to hear that....She was in my eyes also one of the best animals ever created! She will be missed by all....but I am very thrilled you have her babies!!!

That meens there is hope for more like her and even better in your future and ours!

Thanks for keeping her babies!!!

Andy Federico
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davel Feb 28, 2008 11:44 AM

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Dave Lee

LBC35 Feb 28, 2008 11:59 AM

So sorry Jeff, that was a gorgeous animal.....very sad for you.
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Paul Harb

Jonathan_Brady Feb 28, 2008 12:13 PM

So sorry to hear that Jeff. That is one of my BIGGEST fears with my animals. I always have respected you and what you've done for this hobby. I didn't think it was possible, but my level of respect just rose another notch after reading your post. It's rare for people to talk about things like this and I think it certainly sheds light onto one of the downsides of breeding.
Thanks for being an open man, from all sides. This hobby needs people like you.
Best of luck to you in your other projects and in continuing that one. I'm sure it'll prove to be very successful!
Jonathan
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Jonathan Brady
"Sarcasm is angers ugly cousin" -Dr. Buddy Rydell (Jack Nicholson) in "Anger Management".

fgs Feb 28, 2008 12:17 PM

OH Jeff:

I'm so sorry to hear about your loss. It is always a tough thing to go through.

I'm glad to hear that her gene pool is in tact.

We all share in your pain.

Brian
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Brian Gundy

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tibor Feb 28, 2008 12:23 PM

so sorry for the pain...my thoughts are with you today..bummer.
She was just awesome.

Guy Scavone II Feb 28, 2008 12:33 PM

Wow Jeff... that sure is a bummer! You know I loved that animal!!!! My fav hypo EVER for that matter.

Like you said though... crazy stuff happens. At least you still have her genes and I have no doubt that you'll be able to produce one just like her.. maybe even better!(is that possible?)

All the best with the rest of your season.. I have a feeling that in a few weeks you'll be back on Cloud 10

Regards,

You, 25 years younger, with hair, and 2.5' shorter.

mdc Feb 28, 2008 01:21 PM

Jeff,

I'm soo sorry for your loss. She was absolutely stunning and I can't imagine how you feel. Everyone here knows how much pride you took in her.

Matt Crabe

nickstone Feb 28, 2008 03:18 PM

Nick

THESNAKEDEN Feb 28, 2008 04:14 PM

Jeff,
So sorry man, she was beautiful.
Ralph

Tracy Barker Feb 28, 2008 05:52 PM

I'm sorry to hear that-really was one of my favorite snakes-just loved that thick pattern. Glad you have her offspring, that will help you remember her. Tracy

robert baker Feb 28, 2008 06:02 PM

I am sorry to hear the news. I lost a very special boa this year too. It is a hard situation to deal with. Keep your head up and keep producing those awesome boas!

Robert
Baker's Boas

Rick2 Feb 28, 2008 07:27 PM

Jeff I have never met or spoke to you but I can definitely feel your pain. I have seen this girl featured in some boa books and I have heard you many time previously say it was your most prized snake. Just hope you are okay and wish you the best.

Regard,
Rick Douglas

bcibydesign Feb 28, 2008 07:30 PM

Hey Bro, sorry to hear that. she ROCKED! But keep smiling, becuase I'm sure you have many more to smile about. sure would love to see pics of some of her kids when you get a chance.
later B.
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People will say what they want to say, believe what they want to believe. No matter what proof you have to the contrary.

Brendan
BCI by Design

drimes Feb 28, 2008 07:35 PM

Kathy and I are very saddened at your loss Jeff.

We were fortunate enough to be among the very few to see that animal in person so we know how magnificent she was.

Our most sincere condolences.

Kathy & Denny Rimes

KevMadden Feb 28, 2008 07:57 PM

I feel for you Jeff.

madisonrecords Feb 28, 2008 08:22 PM

Her and her mom are truly incredible among Colombians. It is amazing how life is here today and gone tommorrow. Better to enjoy beauty and loose it, than to never have enjoyed it at all....JJ

mohaskee Feb 28, 2008 08:38 PM

Sorry for your loss Jeff. At least you still have her kids to carry on. Mike

jscrick Feb 28, 2008 09:33 PM

I feel for you Jeff.
Sorry for your loss.
jsc
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dyagi Feb 28, 2008 10:59 PM

your lost of BIG RED, especially being your all time favorite.

D

ceniceros Feb 29, 2008 03:21 AM

Sorry to hear that.
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Richard Ceniceros

bboa Feb 29, 2008 05:04 AM

Jeff, very sorry to hear of your loss. Take care, Brad

PGoss Feb 29, 2008 07:42 AM

np
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Phil Goss
www.GossReptiles.com

BoaGal Feb 29, 2008 08:59 AM

I just hope time heals your sadness and you can produce more with her genes.
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Rachel Squier

1.1 '03? BRBs (Blaze and Shimmer)
1.0 '07 Albino BCI (Cupid)
0.2 '07 100% Het Albino BCIs (Lia and Suzie)
0.1 '07 DH Sunglow BCI (Daisy)

boaphile Feb 29, 2008 09:38 AM

I do take some solace in the fact that I have many of her babies and will make another big girl that looks just like her some day. But there was just something about that first one. When I saw her in the goo with all those other babies. She sent shivers up and down my spine... She was really something and not only my favorite baby of 2000 but my favorite of all time.

She had four male babies that each have the same color as her. None of the females are the same color as their Mom. Beautiful to be sure but not the same red color. I won't be doing a sibling breeding as I have plenty of other great colored Boas I can breed to continue making more without the possible complications associated with in breeding. In this case, it just is not at all necessary. Here is one of her little boys. Like mother like son I always say.

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fhuici Feb 29, 2008 11:45 PM

WOW, I'm just read your post. Sorry to hear that. That's got to be real hard. She was truly a beautiful animal. Hang in there!

metalpest Mar 02, 2008 01:50 AM

Sad when these things happen unexpectedly. I had a male persian rat die not long ago, 3 days after eating. Never missed a meal. Just under 2 years of age. Why? I couldn't tell you.
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martinoreptiles Mar 16, 2008 07:41 PM

Jeff,

I'm very sorry for your loss. At least her genes will indeed live in for one of the greatest boa care takers of all time.

Regards,

Vic Martino
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Martino Reptiles
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