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I got them as rescues, from two different sources.
The smaller is supposed to be an Egyptian, but I am thinking it is a juvenile color'd version of the larger rat snake.
The larger I beleive is a "grey" rat snake.
But am not sure, please take a look and let me know.
Thank you.

diadems or egyption. definitly not american ratsnakes. look to me like african/midle eastern heritage. maybe someone more with more experiance can fill you in more about these. gorgeous snakes thou.

Definitely a Diadem Snake, one of the Spalerosophis diadema species, probably cliffordi.
Graham.
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The larger of the two is a black rat snake or a black - gray intergrade. The smaller of the two is not an American rat snake.

definitely not north american.

Both are diadems.
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I agree Brad,that is not a N.A rat! Jeff

The snakes are definitely Diadem Snakes, and the smaller one is probably (Spalerosophis diadema cliffordi) as previously mentioned. The larger is probably the nominate race known as Spalerosophis diadema although hard to tell for certain. These combined subspecies have a very large range from north Africa, through Arabia, and into central Asia.

There are several ssp. of Diadem "ratsnake", more accurately closer to the genus of racers, than true ratsnakes.

In any case, forget about it being any form of North American Ratsnake.

~Doug

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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"