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Tegus and LOTR "The Two Towers"

ladystefanie Aug 28, 2003 08:28 AM

So the hubby and I were watching the second Lord of the Rings movie last night and he pointed something out. (If you haven't seen these movies or read the books, this might not make sense, sorry in advance!!)

When the Ring Wraiths (the Black Riders) are looking for the ring, they seem to sniff for it. I listened to it about 10 times and I SWEAR it sounds just like a huffy tegu. More of a hiss than a sniff. We put in the first one and watched some parts of it to see if it was the same and it is! I just wonder if Peter Jackson really used the lizards as a sound effect or if (and this is more likely, I think) it's a cool coincidence.

Anyway - just something fun for everyone.

Have a great day!!
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Lady Stefanie

Replies (12)

rowad Aug 28, 2003 10:33 AM

Very true...same sound. Me thinks it's not a tegu though
Great movies...can't wait to see the last one.
Have you ever seen the target commercial with the lizard? My husband says it's a tegu...it looks like a monitor to me though...


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Yours,

NiCoLE

"Trying to save someone from their own stupidity is like trying to teach a pig how to dance: it wastes your time, and annoys the pig."

- Robert
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ladystefanie Aug 28, 2003 10:36 AM

Which Target commercial is that?? I'll have to watch for it.

And I'm pretty sure it's not a tegu sound effect either, but it sure did sound like it.
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Lady Stefanie

rowad Aug 28, 2003 10:46 AM

>>Which Target commercial is that??

The one with all the target emblems...one is where a girl is walking through the store with a tongue flicking lizard about the size of a tegu...but colring like a monitor...another is the one in the school with what looks like the same animal.
Kind of cute


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Yours,

NiCoLE

"Trying to save someone from their own stupidity is like trying to teach a pig how to dance: it wastes your time, and annoys the pig."

- Robert
Heinlein

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asia2003 Aug 28, 2003 10:57 AM

It's funny you should mention commercials, my kids have been going on and on at me to watch the "mead, back to school" commercial, and I finally saw it today, and lo and behold, there is a little chinese water dragon in the beginning of it!!! Maybe our wonderful lizards will become more accepted thanks to the tv!!!

Ley

Rollin Aug 28, 2003 11:17 AM

Have you seen on animal planet they run little commercials for the upcomming Jeff Corwin show (rerun). On some of them the closing shot is Jeff holding a tegu while the camera is looking down on them and zooms out. Funny I've never seen anyone mention it here and they've been using that shot for like a year. I wish they would stop teasing us and just send Jeff or Steve down to Argentina to do a show! It was mentioned awhile back that there was a tegu in the Hulk movie too.

ladystefanie Aug 28, 2003 11:41 AM

Stefanie has to admit that she has no cable (or dish) TV in her home. She is very ashamed. But she periodically gets over to her folk's home to watch Discovery, Animal Planet, HGTV and Bravo. She will definitely have to get someone to start watching for her with a permanent tape in the VCR to catch it so it can be seen at another time.


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Lady Stefanie

Ripley Aug 29, 2003 02:36 AM

I love that spot! The tegu he's holding is huge!!!

rowad Aug 28, 2003 12:03 PM

haven't seen it...I'll look for it though!
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Yours,

NiCoLE

"Trying to save someone from their own stupidity is like trying to teach a pig how to dance: it wastes your time, and annoys the pig."

- Robert
Heinlein

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madeleine Aug 28, 2003 03:13 PM

The lizard in the Target commercial is a Savannah (Bosc) monitor. I was amazed to see one in a commercial. While we're talking commercials, did anyone see that one (I think it was a cell phone commercial...not sure) where the two guys are going through junk they're trying to sell or throw out, and one item is a stuffed monitor lizard!

rowad Aug 28, 2003 03:22 PM

No I have never seen a stuffed lizard! I was reading that etgus are eaten in south america for medicinal purposes
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Yours,

NiCoLE

"Trying to save someone from their own stupidity is like trying to teach a pig how to dance: it wastes your time, and annoys the pig."

- Robert
Heinlein

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Rollin Aug 28, 2003 04:15 PM

Actually tegus are the most heavily exploited reptiles in the world by number, with about 1,300,000 being harvested every year in Argentina and Paraguay. There is some concern about loosing some of the color and pattern variations. And of course there's always a chance there are some small populations of different species unknown to science that could be in trouble. I think it does say a lot about how many tegus there are down there though. I suspect people have been eating and using the skins of tegus for quite a while. But I'm sure the numbers have been increasing much more now that it's more commercial and Argentina is in hard economic times.

http://wfscnet.tamu.edu/wfscnet/menu/reports/AR00/cb15.htm

Another article

L. A. Fitzgerald et al. [1999, Copeia (4):894-905] report that at least five species of Tupinambis lizards (Sauria: Teiidae) occur in South America east of the Andes. In Argentina and Paraguay, two species of Tupinambis have been commercially exploited for leather since the 1970s. Current quotas total 1.35 million skins/yr. Despite this large and sustained harvest, few studies have examined genetic or morphological variation in these lizards. The authors sequenced parts of the mitochondrial cytochrome b and ND4 genes and examined this variation in light of morphological characters traditionally used to identify these species. DNA sequences provided a preliminary view of intraspecific and interspecific variation and were used to explore evolutionary relationships among 17 individuals representing T. merianae, T. rufescens and T. duseni from Paraguay, and T. longilineus and T. teguixin from Roraima, Brazil, and Cuyabeno, Ecuador. Kentropyx viridistriga, Ameiva ameiva and Cnemidophorus ocellifer were included as outgroups. Analyses revealed two distinctive groups within Tupinambis; a northern South American and Amazonian clade (T. teguixin, T. longilineus) and a clade (T. duseni, T. rufescens and T. merianae) that is distributed primarily south of Amazonia. Although genetically similar and previously considered synonymous with T. rufescens, T. duseni is morphologically distinct based on squamation, coloration, and morphometrics. This incongruence between the molecular data and morphology suggests that T. duseni and T. rufescens may have undergone extensive and recent morphological evolution or there has been introgression of mitochondrial DNA between these species. Sequence divergence between T. teguixin from Brazil and Ecuador was similar to that found between T. rufescens and T. merianae and may indicate these T. teguixin populations are not conspecific. The T. teguixin clade was sister to T. longilineus. These findings, combined with the large-scale commercial exploitation, suggest an urgent need to address geographic variation and the systematics of Tupinambis.

nickpurvis Aug 28, 2003 08:58 PM

well its not the same movie but the incredible hulk has a golden tegu in the beginnning of it.it is being experimented on or something but thought Id share this
nick

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