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Does anyone know the rules and or regulations for the trapping of burmese pythons in florida, by people who do not live in florida. I heard a while back that you can as long as you get a fishing license but i don't kow if that is true or nor. any help would be great thank you.

I am not a Florida expert, but I thought you did not need any kind of license to catch non-venomous non-protected species of herps. The problem with burms is that vast part of the range they have set claim to in Florida is in the Everglades National Park, and no animal (not even the invasive species) can be taken or molested inside the park.

Somebody please correct me if I am not on track here....
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Herp Conservation Unlimited

You're right, but there are lots of areas outside the park where burms are found...
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Brad Chambers
WWW.HCU-TX.ORG

The Avalanche has already started-it is too late for the pebbles to vote....

>>You're right, but there are lots of areas outside the park where burms are found...
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>>Brad Chambers
>>WWW.HCU-TX.ORG
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>>The Avalanche has already started-it is too late for the pebbles to vote....

Oh yeah, I know there are places just north of the park that they can be found with some expectation... but so far these snakes have not read the report and map put out by the USGS and are not in SF Bay area yet. I also assume that once they read this report they will learn how to hibernate underground in areas with a colder winter and also how to adapt to the environmental stress factors that should hold them at bay.

Oh, yeah I forgot this fantasy map was based on the guesswork of the impact global waming may have 100 years from now, but what is funny is they did not adjust the coastlines... so they will never hit the bay area unless they become aquatic too.

Lance
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Good call Lance.

If they adjusted the coast line, people would realize this is supposed to be a map quite a few years in the future. As it stands now, it's a shocking display. If the map no longer looks like the US, people wouldn't think about how it would impact them as much. I'm sure these researchers are going for big dollar grants. Making people care is the only way to get money. It's just too bad that it has to come at our expense.

Too true. I think it's ridiculous that they can even pretend to think that they can predict some 10-20 factors over the next 98 years, along with animal migration (since when have animals ever cooperated?). Some of those factors would be the technological advances in green energy, maybe some way to slow down or stop global warming, efforts to stop or slow down the burmese python populations, population growth to the point where there may not be any habitable areas for them, or possible barriers, and lots of others. How could they possibly predict all that through the course of 98 years, if they cant even agree on what the temperature is going to be tomorrow? These same types of people that are predicting this, have also said for the past month, on a weekly basis, that the snow that week would be the last snow of the winter, but here it's still snowing...and yet each week they still announce that this one will be the last one, and now they've added "we promise" to it. Ridiculous.
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-Jacob

"Math counts for gum.. gotta chew something while in math or you'll bloody scream." -Laura a.k.a. Priincezz93

Lance,

I believe there are two maps. The 100 year, post-global warming map is kind of irrelevant anyway if you look at the first (ridiculous) map (ie, one on bottom left at following website).

http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1875

Let me know if I'm misreading this.

Thanks,
Ed

>>>>You're right, but there are lots of areas outside the park where burms are found...
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>>>>Brad Chambers
>>>>WWW.HCU-TX.ORG
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>>>>The Avalanche has already started-it is too late for the pebbles to vote....
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>>Oh yeah, I know there are places just north of the park that they can be found with some expectation... but so far these snakes have not read the report and map put out by the USGS and are not in SF Bay area yet. I also assume that once they read this report they will learn how to hibernate underground in areas with a colder winter and also how to adapt to the environmental stress factors that should hold them at bay.
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>>Oh, yeah I forgot this fantasy map was based on the guesswork of the impact global waming may have 100 years from now, but what is funny is they did not adjust the coastlines... so they will never hit the bay area unless they become aquatic too.
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>>Lance
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>>Herp Conservation Unlimited

I know there were two maps, and both of them or ridiculous. One map was a projection based on a very limited data set that will never be a reality for a number of reasons. The other was the same basic map again with the guesswork of global warming added into the deal.

I really hope the scientist that put this together feel ashamed of what they had to do.

Lance
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I just wanted to make sure, since I know some others were (understandably) confused. The reason I said the second map
is irrelevant is because, aside from the fact it is based on
junk "global warming" science, it shows a very small percentage increase in the python range over the next 100 years. Who cares?? To me this is a blatant attempt to confuse people and/or just work in "global warming" to scare people. It can't even be disguised as anything else.

I agree with you, this is probably the most egregious and blatant examples of junk science/deception I've ever seen. I truly believe a Congressional investigation would not be out of line. (Not that it would ever happen..)

Thanks,
Ed

>>I know there were two maps, and both of them or ridiculous. One map was a projection based on a very limited data set that will never be a reality for a number of reasons. The other was the same basic map again with the guesswork of global warming added into the deal.
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>>I really hope the scientist that put this together feel ashamed of what they had to do.
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>>Lance
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All they did for the first map was take the temps a burm would survive at, and turn the map green wherever it matches, without thinking of habitat, humidity, or anything else.

For the second map, they did something similar, except they took a (probably pre-made) map of the temperatures at 2100 from some global warming site, and turn the map green where the temperature matches.

For the yellow part, they probably just weren't satisfied with how big the green area was, so they wanted to make the possible area that will be "ruled by snakes" larger, so they just added a few miles, and called it maybe.
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-Jacob

"Math counts for gum.. gotta chew something while in math or you'll bloody scream." -Laura a.k.a. Priincezz93