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Blood Spur Length and Subcaudals

anselmo1 Mar 10, 2008 05:42 PM

Hello,

I am new at probing snakes and have currently just probed my 3 1/2' known now as Female Blood. I was able to probe to a length of 4-5 subcaudals.

I wanted to know the usual scale count for both males and females "probing"

Also I have a few pictures that are too large to put onto kingsnake. These pictures are of the spurs in comparison with the tail size and length as well as the full picture of the Blood.

Can anyone let me know if it is considered a Malaysian Blood Red Python, or Yellow phase Blood Python? Also, does it appear as a female from the pics?

Thank you,

Eric

Sorry I can not post on here

Replies (4)

Kelly_Haller Mar 10, 2008 06:18 PM

Females bloods, especially sub-adults and larger, will generally probe 4 to 5 subcaudals and sometimes 6 in rare cases. Sub-adult to adult males will generally go 8 to 10, or 2 to 2.5 inches. Spur sexing bloods can be inconclusive unless the male happens to have large spurs, as some males have smaller spurs and can be mistaken for a female, unless you have seen a large number of them for comparison. Spur sexing juveniles or younger would be impossible in my opinion. Most males will virtually always readily invert their hemepenes when even slightly restrained in a sheet or pillow case with the tail exposed. With females under this procedure, take care not to mistake the smaller musk appendages for hemepenes, as I have seen some people mis-sex bloods due to this unique morphological characteristic of the old "curtus" group.

Kelly

anselmo1 Mar 10, 2008 07:03 PM

Hey Kelly,

Thank you so much for that answer. I have uploaded some pictures to check out

Thank you again,

Eric

bigcountry1 Mar 10, 2008 09:01 PM

did you probe both sides?
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Anselmo1 Mar 10, 2008 10:47 PM

Thank you for the response. Yes I did, the one side was abour 4 the other was about 5 or so (Subc), then it hit the "wall" and she flinched a little indicating it was not going to go any further. I use the twirling of the probe method as well as ball fronted probes for added safety! Being a newby at utilizing the probe I like to get other opinions. Any idea on if she looks to be more of a yellow phase rather then the red phase?

Thank you,

Eric

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