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I thought i lost my snake. Today i went to the petstore, and bought both a pinkie and a clawed frog (since i read some owners had sucess with these guys). Its been around 60 days since he ate, but i said today will be the day. I put him in a bucket with a heat lamp over it and tossed in the scented pinkie, and the frog. Within a few minutes, he attacked the frog from behind, and starting chewing on the clawed frog. The frog started breaking free, and the snake curcled around him, then somehow grabbed himself, and started chewing on its back, and the frog hopped away. The snake was then covered in blood (most likely of the frog), and struggling to unhinge its jaws from his skin. Then for the next 5 minutes, his mouth was wide open, and spewing this thick clear goey fluid, and bubbles came from his throats. His muscles were tensed, and soon he did not move at all, so i quickly cleaned him with warm water, and cleaned his mouth of the fluid, after several minutes, he started flicking out his tongue weakly, and started moving around. However his jaw looked stretched or broken. Finally after 30 minutes, the jaw returned to its normal state, but all he did for next hour, was streetch our his jaws. Now he is back to his grumpy lively state. Could anybody explain this?!! I first thought maybe is was some reaction to the african clawed frog's skin, or maybe since he hasnt ate in so long, his glands are dormant?

It was good to see him interested in something, but sad to see him almost die.

reaction to the frog.

Very most likely. (That can't be good grammar...)

North American snakes should NEVER be fed amphibians not native to North America. Amphibians often times have very unique chemicals on and in them that can do serious damage to something that hasnt evolved to be able to tolerate it.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1200/is_v132/ai_5246522

Ah!! and to think someone suggested to me that clawed frogs were safe since they are aquatic, and they worked for hognoses.

Do you or anybody have any suggestionn for any non-mammal safe prey to feed to a western hognose. He has no responce to pinky, or responce to smell of lizard or split brain pinkie. I even tried the deli cup. I read that once you trigger these snakes to feed, they well begin the eating cycle again. I know so far, he responds quickly to the movement of hopping (tree frog didnt work, they jump and dissapear).

Have you tried dipping the pink in the water from a can of tuna? Also, since it seems so movement oriented have you tried a live pink? Or scenting a live pink? Tuna juice has worked best for me in the past over any other scenting method.
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Jenea
Guardian Reptiles

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