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Breeders- how many of your best males do you hold back?

Starling Aug 28, 2003 04:37 PM

I am holding back my gecko Vivid to be my male stud next year, he is from my hypotangalbinocarrot male and my hypotangcarrot het albino female. I was going to sell his brother, but the person who was going to send a deposit to hold an option on him never did, and now I am wondering if I should keep him. How many females do you generally have per male? I will be breeding a lot of 2002 geckos next year that I did not breed this year, so there will be a lot of ladies to service.

I am posting pics of Vivid and Vivid's brother...looking for opinions...is one enough or should I keep both?

This is Vivid:

Also Vivid:

This is Vivid's brother, who is younger, the orange is just starting to come though the pink on him

another of Vivid's Brother

So, what do you think? Should I hold back both or just keep Vivid? I mean, what if god forbid Vivid escaped and I didn't find him for five months like Lola? For those that remember Lola's story, she was my best of 2002 and she escaped in November and I didn't find her til like April. I did not breed her this year as I wanted her to but on more weight, she has fattened up nicely and I can't wait to breed her next season. Here is Lola today, btw. Being lost for 5 months in Winter does not seem to have darkened her colors. I want to breed her with Vivid next year-won't it be exciting seeing those babies hatch!!!

Lola today:

Replies (3)

kurma Aug 28, 2003 05:11 PM

Vivid is diffently much better looking as of now, how many are you planning on breeding with him? If you going to use them for the same projects/morphs best IMO to just use the better one vivid as he can hanlde plenty of femaels and mnake btter babies right?
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Starling Aug 28, 2003 05:44 PM

God, I'd have to count....somewhere between 15-20, most likely. I had a problem this year rotating my male too quickly, and he didn't seem to deposit enough sperm from just one mating to make fertile eggs all season. Of course that may be part of the learning curve for me, learning to let him mate with each female more than once.

Vivid is getting more hypo by the day, the orange keeps taking over the pink.

My breeding program is very focused- tangerine and hypotangerine albinos. I am also working on bringing more carrottail into my line, and I have patternless genes in my line as well (foundation male is het patternless), so I keep hoping for a tangerine albino patternless.

I'll use Vivid for all if I can, I'm just wondering if it might not be wise to keep another top male as an "insurance policy". Vivid's brother looks like he will go hypo as well, he certainly should with his genetics. He is also getting more intensly orange as he matures. I think I may hold him back, a least for awhile. I mean if breeding season comes along and I don't need the other one, I can always sell him then...probably be worth a lot more then as will be clear how hypo is.

bradley Aug 28, 2003 10:01 PM

I would keep the best male of the year and only breed him to all of the females, as well as keeping the second best male only as a backup male if the best male should be sterile or somehow be able to not breed.

The only exception would be if you have two different males but both just as nice. For example, you have a great hypo, almost super hypo tangerine male, but is not as deep of a tangerine as you like, but then you also have an incredibly deep tangerine male but isn't as hypo as you'd like. If I were you I would keep and breed both of them, each to the best females in which features they can be improved upon (the super hypo with deep tangerine females and the deep tangerine with the very hypo females). Of course if you have a single male with both of the traits (like vivid looks to be), then your idea would be best in my opinion.
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