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Brian recentlty produced a litter of T+ albino CRB's and sent me a pic. When I told him he should post it up here he gave me permission to do so.......

Dated 03/09/2008,

Hey Dave,

Since you are the rainbow freak that you are, I thought you might enjoy a photo I took tonight of a small litter (mom in the background) I discovered when I returned home from fishing all day. The parents are het T+ Albino Colombian rainbows that I had produced three years ago from a normal male bred to my original T+ Albino Col rainbow female. This has been a project that has been a long time in the making. There were 4 T+ Albinos, 1 poss het and 1 slug.

Hope things are well with you and your critters.

Enjoy!

Brian

I copied, cropped and resized the one pic into two images....

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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Dave,

Thanks for posting, very interesting. If I understand this correctly he bred two hets together and got 4/5 albinos?
Man, the odds-Gods were on his side! (Unless the mutation
is dominant like hypo in BCI's.)

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Ed

>>Brian recentlty produced a litter of T+ albino CRB's and sent me a pic. When I told him he should post it up here he gave me permission to do so.......
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>>Dated 03/09/2008,
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>>Hey Dave,
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>>Since you are the rainbow freak that you are, I thought you might enjoy a photo I took tonight of a small litter (mom in the background) I discovered when I returned home from fishing all day. The parents are het T Albino Colombian rainbows that I had produced three years ago from a normal male bred to my original T Albino Col rainbow female. This has been a project that has been a long time in the making. There were 4 T Albinos, 1 poss het and 1 slug.
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>>Hope things are well with you and your critters.
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>>Enjoy!
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>>Brian
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>>I copied, cropped and resized the one pic into two images....
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>>Thanks,
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>>Dave Colling
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>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
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>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
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>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>26.49 BRB
>>20.21 BCI
>>And those are only the breeders
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>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

My thoughts are he beat the crap out of the odds, single T+ female produced a litter of normal looking babies. One pair of sibs bred to each other produced this litter which by all odds should be 25% T+ instead of the 80% he ended up with!!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

... I wonder where Bob's been lately?

He's missing out on all this genetics talk.
Bob, you out there???

Thanks,
Ed

>>My thoughts are he beat the crap out of the odds, single T+ female produced a litter of normal looking babies. One pair of sibs bred to each other produced this litter which by all odds should be 25% T+ instead of the 80% he ended up with!!!
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>>Thanks,
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>>Dave Colling
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>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
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>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
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>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>26.49 BRB
>>20.21 BCI
>>And those are only the breeders
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>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Dave,

Thanks for posting the photos for me. God knows I'm challenged when it comes to sizing and manipulating photos on the computer!

To answer the question about genetics, it is definitely a simple recessive trait, based on prior breedings and production of hets vs albinos etc.

In the case of this small but dynamite litter, I just got very lucky.

Brian

Brian,

Congratulations on beating the odds! That's awesome.

Thanks,
Ed

>>Dave,
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>>Thanks for posting the photos for me. God knows I'm challenged when it comes to sizing and manipulating photos on the computer!
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>>To answer the question about genetics, it is definitely a simple recessive trait, based on prior breedings and production of hets vs albinos etc.
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>>In the case of this small but dynamite litter, I just got very lucky.
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>>Brian

Wow...talk about beating the odds. It seems like it'd be easier to win the lottery than get that kind of ratio on a simple recessive. Congrats!

Brian,
Congratulation on an outstanding litter. I have some questions. what does the T mean? Are the eyes really blue? Where did grandma come from? Any pictures of her?
Thanks again for sharing via Dave.
Paul

Did you get my email?

I did get your email Saturday and wrote an exceedingly lengthy, well thought out reply touching on a multitude of subjects. Hit send and got a bounce back that did not save my message (would have helped if I had actually saved a copy, frustrating). I then sent you a reply through kingsnake which I'm guessing did not go through? Do you have a spam blocker on your email?
I'll check my email tonight to see if your actually refering to Saturdays letter or if you sent one tonight (in which case, umm no I did'nt).
Communicating really should'nt be so hard.
Paul

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That's too cool, thanks for posting that. Awesome!

hey those look nice... i am a fan of the t !!!

i really like how they are really light colored yet still have darker markings and dark eyes very nice!!!

im usually not fond of albinos but that T makes all the difference huh

thanks for posting and dont be shy about more pictures as they grow!!!!!
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-Stephen-

0.1 soon to be wifey (hopefully)
1.0 rotwiler/chow (Boomer-wifey's pooch)
1.0 norm corn (Jake aka grumpy old terdhead)
0.1 col redtail boa (Dixie-my baby girl)
0.1 ball python (Bella- wifey's baby girl)

hopeful for not to distant future:
--brazillian rainbow boas 1 female for sure
2 or 3? maybe a breeding pair?
-- bearded dragon for the wifey my list got to big...

more distant future hopefuls
1 or 2 of each maybe a breeding pair?
--anery boa (ooooh)
--jungle carpet python (love to have 1 or 2)
--dumeril boa (ahhhh)

slightly more wishful thinking
--hypo br rainbow boa (love em)
--anery br rainbow boa (oooh even better!!)
--motely boa (gorgeous!!)

First off, congrats!!! What a great turnout!

Second... I know nothing of how the T+ and T- thing works. "T" stands for Tyrosinase, right? What does it do?

Also, this might be what the T+ thing is all about, but they almost look Hypo and not Albino to me. They still seem to have darker markings.

I would appreciate it if someone could explain to me why I am wrong?

Thanks!
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Aubrey Ross

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www.SlipstreamSerpents.com

There are T- and T albinos in a number of different animals, the Black Rat snake for example. I believe the Caramel albinos, in both ball pythons and boa constrictors are also examples of T albinism.

As I understand it, Tyrosinase is an element(enzyme)necessary to synsthesize or process melanin. Think of it as a precursor to melanin. In a T- albino (what we think of as a typical albino) there is no Tyrosinase present, therefore no melanin and no dark pigment. In a T albino the presence of Tyrosinase allows varying degrees of darker pigment to show.

Although the eyes of these albino babies appear to be an overall blue, they have a red iris. It's pretty subtle, and a light is often needed to see the red coloration clearly.

In the message I just posted there are supposed to be plus signs ( ) after the Ts where there are none. For some reason they didn't appear. My bad!

Thanks for the info... that makes much more sense now.

By the way, how do you tell the difference as babies whether they are Hypo or T+ Albino if you didn't know the genetics hidden in the parents? Is it the slight red in the iris that you spoke of? Also, do you have pictures of what the Hypo, T+ and T- adults look like? (For comparison)

P.S. The "+" sign is wierd here. You have to type "& # 4 3" (without the spaces) to have it show up right.
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Aubrey Ross

©
www.SlipstreamSerpents.com

Now that should be in the Tools and Toys.

Thanks that may have taken me some time to figure out LMAO
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

Absolutely exquisite Brian! Congratulations on a fantastic clutch!
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Mike Lockwood
www.tooscaley.com

Well now those are very nice neonates...Fishing all day...damn Brian Sharp got me going to get my fishing licence tomorrow.

BTW Weather was calling me any ways, just placing blame as usual

lol.

Gorgeous babies..Columbians as well !!!!

Where's Scott...LOL

>>Brian recentlty produced a litter of T albino CRB's and sent me a pic. When I told him he should post it up here he gave me permission to do so.......
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>>Dated 03/09/2008,
>>
>>Hey Dave,
>>
>>Since you are the rainbow freak that you are, I thought you might enjoy a photo I took tonight of a small litter (mom in the background) I discovered when I returned home from fishing all day. The parents are het T Albino Colombian rainbows that I had produced three years ago from a normal male bred to my original T Albino Col rainbow female. This has been a project that has been a long time in the making. There were 4 T Albinos, 1 poss het and 1 slug.
>>
>>Hope things are well with you and your critters.
>>
>>Enjoy!
>>
>>Brian
>>
>>
>>I copied, cropped and resized the one pic into two images....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----
>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>Dave Colling
>>
>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
>>
>>
>>
>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
>>
>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>26.49 BRB
>>20.21 BCI
>>And those are only the breeders
>>
>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats
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Roberts Realm Of Reptile Research
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

Spend the day fishing then hit the CRB albino jackpot.
Just doesn't get any better than that!

>>Spend the day fishing then hit the CRB albino jackpot.
>>Just doesn't get any better than that!
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Roberts Realm Of Reptile Research
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

Even though we didn't do so well at fishing, the old saying that a bad day fishing is better than a good day at work still applies! LOL

I don't believe that red or reddish eyes are found in hypo animals.

Nope, I don't have photos of the various morphs in adult Colombian rainbows for comparison purposes. I wish I did have all those animals!

Brian,

I saw on your site that you are/will be working with Indigos.
Just curious if you have any. I have an eastern Indigo. Great
snake. Although I should probably change his name from "Jack" to
"OT" given the number of times I've posted pics of him in this BRB forum.

Thanks,
Ed

>>Even though we didn't do so well at fishing, the old saying that a bad day fishing is better than a good day at work still applies! LOL
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>>I don't believe that red or reddish eyes are found in hypo animals.
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>>Nope, I don't have photos of the various morphs in adult Colombian rainbows for comparison purposes. I wish I did have all those animals!

I keep and have successfully bred both Texas Indigos and Yellow tail Cribos. I'm expecting two, maybe three clutches of Texas Indigos this spring, but not sure on the YTs.

I kept Easterns way back when in the pre-act days, and I'm currently awaiting my permit from the state of Virginia which will allow me to keep and breed Easterns.

The Drymarchon group are my favorite of all snakes. In my estimation, nothing else comes close in terms of beauty, intelligence and personality.

I hope you will be working with the yellow tailed specie in the future. I have always wanted one to be honest. Very impressive animals to behold. Them and File snakes I have to get eventually. You are right about that adage about fishing.
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Roberts Realm Of Reptile Research
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

I've got three generations of captive-bred Yellow tails, and I will always work with them. When high-yellow ones get large they are truly impressive.

Attached is a photo of a 7 foot female that produced 14 good eggs for me last year. All my YTs are mellow and easily handled.

I assume their is a waiting list to acquire a pair of these. I know how tough it is to get a hold of high quality captive bred neonates. Actually quite a rarity. That snake is truly impressive indeed. I don't think the average hobbyist would know that these snakes are hard to come by, especially if you don't want to start with wild caught individuals, that I have not seen available for quite some time.

>>I've got three generations of captive-bred Yellow tails, and I will always work with them. When high-yellow ones get large they are truly impressive.
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>>Attached is a photo of a 7 foot female that produced 14 good eggs for me last year. All my YTs are mellow and easily handled.
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Roberts Realm Of Reptile Research
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

Thanks Frank.

The hatchlings were snatched up within 24 hours after posting an ad for them.

I realize this is a rainbow boa forum, so I'll post just one more photo and let it go at that. Below is a shot of the first YT youngster to hatch last summer. I thought you might enjoy seeing it.

The photo of the mother was taken immmediately after she had her pre-lay shed. She had been placed in a very large tub for egg laying purposes. She and my other adult Drymarchon are all housed individually in six foot Neodesha cages, because they are large, active aniimals and need the space.

guess I will have to bookmark that web page of yours

>>Thanks Frank.
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>>The hatchlings were snatched up within 24 hours after posting an ad for them.
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>>I realize this is a rainbow boa forum, so I'll post just one more photo and let it go at that. Below is a shot of the first YT youngster to hatch last summer. I thought you might enjoy seeing it.
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>>The photo of the mother was taken immmediately after she had her pre-lay shed. She had been placed in a very large tub for egg laying purposes. She and my other adult Drymarchon are all housed individually in six foot Neodesha cages, because they are large, active aniimals and need the space.
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Roberts Realm Of Reptile Research
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

But of course you did Dave.

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Roberts Realm Of Reptile Research
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Thanks,

I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.