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peruvian growth rate?

Gary93 Mar 19, 2008 06:04 AM

im just wondering..i kno brazilians grow kinda slow...the pic of Jeffs male on his site is 6ft at not even 2 yrs! so do peruvians grow super fast?

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Jeff Clark Mar 19, 2008 08:29 AM

Gary,
...Some of the first ones that I got did grow very fast. Some that I got from a couple different sources later are not as fast growing and do not seem like they will be significantly larger than really big Brazilians. Some of this is likely due to individual differences between specimens and some due to feeding rate and attitude about growing them big by the owner and some possibly due to "Peruvian" bloodlines that are not pure. In my collection I have some that I am sure are the real deal and some that I am not so positive about. How do you know your snake is a Peruvian?
Jeff

>>im just wondering..i kno brazilians grow kinda slow...the pic of Jeffs male on his site is 6ft at not even 2 yrs! so do peruvians grow super fast?

Gary93 Mar 19, 2008 04:49 PM

i do not kno for certain. i am going by what the breeder told me. i have pics of her up..do you think she is a peruvian?

Jeff Clark Mar 19, 2008 04:58 PM

Gary,
...I cannot tell looking at your PICs. This subspecies is very similar to the Brazilians. Perhaps so similar that they will be lumped in with the Brazilians in a new catalogging of all the Rainbow Boas. The one thing that is identifiably different is that Peruvians have fewer and larger scales than Brazilians. Peruvians typically have 41 to 43 scale rows at midbody and Brazilians typically have 45 or more. There are snakes in central Peru that have intermediate numbers of scale rows indicating natural intergradation of the two subspecies. Most of the "Peruvians" from northern Peru where nearly all the Rainbow Boas coming from Peru originated have higher scale counts and are actually Brazilians. Many of those Brazilians from northern Peru have beeen imported and called Peruvians by well meaning importers.
Jeff

>>im just wondering..i kno brazilians grow kinda slow...the pic of Jeffs male on his site is 6ft at not even 2 yrs! so do peruvians grow super fast?

natsamjosh Mar 19, 2008 05:13 PM

Hey Jeff,

A few weeks ago I looked at a book (written by Mark O'Shea), and if I remember correctly, he classified Colombians/Guyanans as a different species than the rest of the RB's. I think one reason he mentioned for this distinction is that Colombians and Brazilians don't interbreed in the wild. It's all very confusing visually (at least to me), since some baby Columbians have the same patterning as BRB's, but others seem to have patterns similar to what is called Guyana RB's. Just curious to hear your thoughts.

Is there currently a RB re-classification going on, or was that just a hypothetical?

Thanks!
Ed

>>Gary,
>>...I cannot tell looking at your PICs. This subspecies is very similar to the Brazilians. Perhaps so similar that they will be lumped in with the Brazilians in a new catalogging of all the Rainbow Boas. The one thing that is identifiably different is that Peruvians have fewer and larger scales than Brazilians. Peruvians typically have 41 to 43 scale rows at midbody and Brazilians typically have 45 or more. There are snakes in central Peru that have intermediate numbers of scale rows indicating natural intergradation of the two subspecies. Most of the "Peruvians" from northern Peru where nearly all the Rainbow Boas coming from Peru originated have higher scale counts and are actually Brazilians. Many of those Brazilians from northern Peru have beeen imported and called Peruvians by well meaning importers.
>>Jeff
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>>>>im just wondering..i kno brazilians grow kinda slow...the pic of Jeffs male on his site is 6ft at not even 2 yrs! so do peruvians grow super fast?

Gary93 Mar 19, 2008 05:20 PM

ok. so i basically have no way of knowing unless i want to try and count the number of rows of scales to mid body.

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