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How do I know a Hypo lavender from normal Lavender?

Can someone explain to me the difference. I have a Lavender but it seems to look like the one someone else posted as a Hypo Lavender...

Also what makes a lavender and what can I breed it to to create more cool stuff?

How did I ever get roped into these corns?? They sure are cool but I have way too much to learn!

Thanks Andy

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I'm not an expert as distinguishing hypo lav from normal lav, but that does not look hypo to me.

As far as what makes lavender - lavender is a single gene morph.

What can you breed it to to make cool stuff?

I've always wondered what a charcoal lavender would look like ...
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Andy-

That's a tough one-your snake has more pink than I normally see in our baby lavendars, but not quite as much as in the hypo lavendars...if it was sold to you by a reliable breeder as a lav, then I'd go with that. By a year of age you will know for sure.
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Brad Chambers
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The Avalanche has already started-it is too late for the pebbles to vote....

Is that a male or female? Hypo lavender males tend to be lighter colored than the females. I had a hypo male hatch out that was obvious. He was basically pink with blue eyes. The females where harder to tell but they got lighter, pinker, brighter as they grew.

Male hypo lav right out of the egg with clutch mates (he's easy to pick out):


his pic now

female hypo lav that I am just now convienced is a hypo

Very nice stuff!,........In your picture of the entire clutch, were there other male hypo lavenders besides the light one, or were the rest females?

Man, that is a very light male you have, more orangey/pink, than the lav/purple/pink most display at several months old from what I understood. Rich Z. has a bunch of hypo lavs, and they ALL look like the light male you photographed in the "post hatch" pic.

So much variation with these guys, I'm wondering if some just take much longer to display the "typical" look, and some others are maybe already more towards the "look" at hatching than others?....I'm somewhat puzzled over this.

Just for "kicks", I'm going to ask the breeder of mine what color he was at hatching. He had both Lavs. and hypo Lavs., and has tons of other different corn morphs, so I'm not questioning what mine is at all, I would just like to know a little more about the ontogenic change some have versus some others. I see light pink(almost snow look)as in yours, as well as ones that look like mine, but from what I saw of Rich's, ALL sexes displayed the light pink look. Seems to be tons of variation here, as one might expect of ANY type of corn..LOL!

Even "normal" Lavenders can be extremely tricky to distinguish by visual phenotype, but some MUCH more so than others. Lighter ones can indeed look alot like hypo Lavs., but I've noticed a tendency for normal Lavs to have a more solid look to the dark blotches, whereas most hypos have a more opaque, softer look to the blotching, and in some, there's no way to tell. Extremely light Lavenders can look identicle to some hypo Lavs, and in actuality, vise versa under certain circumstances. The only way to REALLY prove, or disprove questionable ones of either, is some test breeding though. For example, breed what is thought to be a hypo Lavender to a known "normal" hypo, and if ALL sibs are NOT hypo, you know the one you questioned is not a hypo Lav., etc...

I'm sure you already know alot of this, I'm just posting most of this for ANYONE to read if they want. Also, any feedback would be helpful from others too.

I'm going to make sure to document the ongoing future color changes in mine too.

best regards, ~Doug

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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

There was one female hypo lav that I am cetain of and even then wasn't certain until about 3-4 months old.

There is another male that became almost as light as my male at about the same age and I am confident he is a hypo lav as well. He went to Jeff Cochran and you've probably seen his post with the pic. He posted it within the past two weeks.

To complicate things more, even test breeding hypo lav to a known hypo will work only if the hypos are compatible. The only way to really be sure is test breed to clutchmates, siblings, parents, etc that are know hypos. Jeff had an experience last year when he bred two crimsons together and got normal miami's!!

Given the variation of the neonates in your clutch, and the question as to if some were, or were NOT hypo Lavs, etc..., exactly what were the genotypes/phenotypes of the parents involved?

thanks, ~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

male is a lav het hypo and female normal het lav and hypo.

n/p
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Thanks for all the info!

It is a male, and Thanks again!

Andy
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