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Are kings more active then corns??

Ji_ Mar 24, 2008 08:01 AM

Hello there, thinking of making a new addition and have a few questions. Ive had kings before and they seemed to be pretty active. Making regular use of their water dishes for soaking, and just moving around in general. Are corns more secretive??

Also, If I go the corn route Ild be looking to an Okeetee because Ild like a larger animal. Is it common to see five foot adult Okeetees or is that more rare??

Thanks for any input provided ..

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FunkyRes Mar 24, 2008 08:52 AM

I don't notice any activity differences between kings and corns.
If you want a big corn - find a breeder who has big parents. That will give you better odds.

I've seen corns posted before that are close to six feet but I don't know anything about who bred them (or who owns them).

Thought about a pituophis?
They regularly hit six feet - and there are some very beautiful pits.
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tspuckler Mar 24, 2008 11:47 AM

I consider corns to be somewhat less active than kings. My kings always seem to want food and are "out and about" more than my corns, which are on the same feeding schedule.

Most corns don't get to five feet. There are some that get to this size and in some cases even bigger - but the average is 3-4 feet.

"Back in the day" Okeetees and other wild morphs were caught and recorded at sizes reaching six feet, but this seems to happen more often with wild corns - captive bred ones, especially morphs, don't seem to reach these sizes on a regular basis.

There are people working with Okeetee locality snakes like Howie Sherman (Strikers Herps) and that might be your best bet if you want a corn that will perhaps get to five feet.

Tim
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FunkyRes Mar 24, 2008 10:34 PM

>> "Back in the day" Okeetees and other wild morphs were caught and
>> recorded at sizes reaching six feet, but this seems to happen
>> more often with wild corns - captive bred ones, especially
>> morphs, don't seem to reach these sizes on a regular basis.

It seems that a *lot* of the Corn morphs have come out of south Florida, where if I'm not mistaken, corns just don't get as big.

Could the morph craze have reduced the average size of corns in captivity due to the selection by breeders of the florida gene pool as a byproduct of the morph craze?
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Steve_Craig Mar 24, 2008 05:50 PM

As Tim said above, Howie Sherman (Strikers herps) would be a good breeder to check if you like large Okeetees. I have a 2004 male from Howie that is over 4 3/4 feet in size. Howies founding male was around 6 foot in size. Here's a pic of him. He's a true Okeetee locality corn.


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FunkyRes Mar 24, 2008 10:13 PM

That's a stellar corn!
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DMong Mar 25, 2008 02:14 PM

n/p
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Ji_ Mar 25, 2008 08:41 PM

All info taken into consideration ... and thanks a ton.

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