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green and black arrow frog question plese read

matt16 Aug 28, 2003 10:10 PM

hey i was wondering if the greena nd black arrow frog was one of the ones that just hide all the time or are they like the yellow banded one and do they not just stay in their hiding place all day. also what is the success rate with breeding the greean and black guys and are they easily bred. any good care links appreciated.

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mve Aug 29, 2003 02:06 AM

you are talking about dendrobates auratus. and yes, they tend to be very shy. They are easy to breed though. there are a ton of links about these, just type it in on a search engine, you will find some

MJCAdawg Aug 29, 2003 05:02 PM

Alot of Auratus, yes, tend to be really shy. However, mine are ALWAYS out- if they're hiding, i know it's not humid enough or something, cuz they love to be out. Of course they're very timid when it comes to me making fast and sudden movements near the tank-- they'll all retreat, but besides that, they're pretty good about being out. I could watch them for hours. What's really funny though, is i have two tanks setup on this little computer table thing. One of the tanks is on the bottom, and even if i'm walkin around and right next to the tanks, they'll still sit there. The ones on the top always retreat though.
So it just depends i guess. Creating more hiding places and having the humidity secure will probably create more boldness in the frogs.
About breeding-- I don't know yet, cuz my males aren't old enough. One of my females is so ready to go though, cuz i have a recording of a leucomela on a tape recorder, and i'll play it right in front of the tank, and she'll start comin towards the glass. I could have swore i heard one of my males call last night though. But i could be wrong, because i have no clue what is sounds like, and my cell phone was on vibrate, which makes weird noises sometimes, and i noticed that i had missed a call. Could anyone describe to me what an auratus call sounds like?

slaytonp Aug 29, 2003 06:26 PM

I agree that the auratus (especially by blues) are more shy than others, but this can be overcome as they mature with lots of simple cover to make them feel safe. By "simple," I mean a rather plain tank set up without retreat holes under or behind moss, etc. where you can lose track of them, but with a lot of foliage and some shallow, covered dishes or huts, so they are always a hop or two away from "safety." I also let condensation build up on the glass, at which time they will actually come out and climb the glass. With time, they will become more bold and brave, though never to the extent of leuks that may hop on your hand in anticipation of food and practically bowl you over, or the galacs that will get next to the glass and stare you down if they think they need a meal. I even named one of my blue auratus "Larry" after Garrison Keelor's radio character who was discovered living in the cellar after he had disappeared 15 years before.

Although my auratus are apparently breeding now, because I've found eggs, I have never identified any calls that come directly from their tank. Unlike the imitators, they don't seem to be boistrous or quite as oblivious about "doing it" in public. I can tell the calls of the imitators and leuks, (of course if you miss leuks, you are deaf), but the auratus calls must blend in with other sounds to my ears. Even my boys, who have sharper hearing, can't swear they have ever heard them for sure. Maybe they just whisper sweet nothings. Placido Domingo, they ain't.

To get this photo, I scattered in some fruit flies just before I uncovered the blue dish they were all huddled together in. That's Larry, still in the dish.

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Patty
Lost River, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
3 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
5 D. imitator
4 D. leukomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos

Mark W. Aug 29, 2003 11:28 PM

Matt,
It depends on the green and black auratus you are thinking on getting.I have the Costa Ricans and mine aren't shy at all.Some people have said the Hawaiian and the nicaraquan morphs are very shy but mine aren't.I think it has alot to do with the set up they are in also.Mine have bred almsot too good fro me.I have about 15 froglets and more to come so I had to start feed them less and not mist them as much to slow them down.I will have some availiable if interested.E-mail me and we can talk.
Mark W.

mve Aug 30, 2003 02:53 AM

the auratus call is like a very low buzzing. I have bred my green bronze auratus several times.

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