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does anyone have any pics? i have het babies,i bread my male bloodred het amle,het motley to my female butter het motley and got all normal looking babies. thanks robert

if you got all normals than the blood is not het for amel and one of the two is not het for motley.

I dont have any sulfer yet but will have hets hatching out this year
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Dan S.
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Although he should have had more than just normals, the statements you made are not entirely true. It depends on the luck of the draw.
I have bred a pair of snakes together two years in a row. One year, I did not get something that I got the second. Thats the thing about Hets. They are not always contributed.

Pairing: bloodred het amel het motley x butter het motley

According to the Progeny predictor, there is a 40% chance to get normals het for the various traits, with the pairing that was listed.
Depending on the size of the clutch, it is possible that all normals hatched out.
I never disprove a trait on animals that are het by breeding them to another het. You need to breed those animals to ones that are homo for the other one's Het.
Like the blood het amel, het motley to an amel or an amel motley. Or the butter het motley to a motley. That in my mind is the only way to disprove a het.

I hope this helps
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****Misty****

www.sneakyserpents.com

"The more things change, the more they remain Insane"

I agree, and the odds will increase you'll get a homo for any given trait the LARGER the clutch is, but as you mentioned, theoretical numbers don't always coincide with actual outcome.

the homo het, bred to a het homo, is always a good way to go.

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

>>I never disprove a trait on animals that are het by breeding them to another het. You need to breed those animals to ones that are homo for the other one's Het.
>>Like the blood het amel, het motley to an amel or an amel motley. Or the butter het motley to a motley. That in my mind is the only way to disprove a het.
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You said to breed the blood het amel het motley to an amel or an amel motley.
You do know a butter is homo amel don't you?
sorry just had to point that out......LOL

The results rarely match the supposed "odds" but to breed a blood het amel het motley to a butter het motley and only get normals is pretty rough...Sounds like my luck...lol
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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ok, but I was trying to make a point! lol.
I was just trying to explain that it is possible to get normals out of that pairing.

:-P
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****Misty****

www.sneakyserpents.com

"The more things change, the more they remain Insane"

>>I know Misty,
I was just picking at you...
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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its all good.
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****Misty****

www.sneakyserpents.com

"The more things change, the more they remain Insane"

That really sucks for him. Basically a het amel to a homo amel and no amel babies......buy a lottery ticket.

This site has a pic of a hatchling and an adult:

http://www.iansvivarium.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/morphguide/sulfur.html

i know the blood is het 4 both i bread him to my sunglow motley and got normals and amel motleys .this was in 06. she might not be het . ( the butter) but i will find that this year with my butter mot male. thanks Robert